Nick ZepTepi 59 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 Thanks We are all experts in something! I've seen very similar which triggered my curiosity as to whether this spiral motion correlates to the Fibonacci spiral. on the balance of probabilities - I bet it does, but I would like to be able to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T 11,746 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 Thanks I've had a look and I've either got a lot of studying of maths - a subject I'm not good at- or it didn't give me the easy answers. But the reason I ask is I was wondering if there was a correlation between Phi / golden ratio and the spiral action of our journey through space? Has this already been proven / dismissed? YES Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick ZepTepi 59 Report post Posted November 15, 2013 YES Yes to which one? If true do you know how it correlates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T 11,746 Report post Posted November 16, 2013 to both, although you will not find clear mention in the mainstream scientific blabberings The orbits of certain planets are phi related: the distance from Mercury to Venus is approximately 1.618 times the distance from the Sun to Mercury. The distance from Earth to Mars is approximately 1.618 times the distance from Venus to Earth. The orbital relationships between certain planets are also golden proportional. For example, the relationship between Jupiter and Saturn is such that over a sixty year period Jupiter makes five revolutions around the Sun. By marking the position of Saturn at the end of each of Jupiter’s orbital cycles, a golden-proportioned pentagon and pentagram are traced out in space. One of the most prominent forms through which the golden ratio expresses itself is the golden spiral, where the arc of the spiral is determined by phi. The scale can range from microscopic to super-galactic, but the arc remains constant at every stage of progression and level of existence. Not all spirals in nature are golden proportioned, but the golden spiral is prominently featured. The golden spiral can be found in the tiniest sub-atomic particles of the microcosm to spiral galaxies of the macrocosm. At the center of a daisy, golden spirals unfold in clockwise and counter-clockwise directions – the number of the spirals determined by Fibonacci numbers. Swarms of insects, schools of fish and flocks of birds regroup into golden spirals after scattering from a disturbance. The golden ratio is present in the spiral of a fly approaching an object, or a falcon circling its prey. The Golden Rectangle The golden rectangle, expounded by the ancient Egyptians and Greeks, has the property that when a square is removed (square f in left diagram below) a smaller rectangle of the same shape remains. Then a smaller square can be removed (e), and so on with similar results. The squares are all in phi relationship. They can also generate a phi spiral by linking the quadrants (quarter circles) of each square. Each quadrant is 1.618 times longer than the one preceding it. http://www.sacredgeometry.com.au/shopcontent.asp?type=thegoldenratio (quoted in red, the factal existence and unity of all in the cosmic organism or PAN, i have been devoting a lot of time trying to explain this in the other threads, you might want to take a look at PAN-ALL) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botanic 3,130 Report post Posted December 3, 2013 im not really comfortable with this elevated status of "expert" as i do not consider myself an expert in any one field i am willing however to share any knowledge gained in the decades of study T Politely waiting, (whistling) lol, no rush mate, when you're ready. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoneStarr Apophenius 3,735 Report post Posted March 27, 2014 What better place to vent wonderment and display ignorance than the expert board? So, here I go. The Duality Matrix Can someone please explain to me what the k'fuffle is all about? Observe a pendulum swinging: It moves between two extremes of a di-mension metered out between to opposites, or antipodes. Observe a spiral: It moves inside a combined set of di-mensions. Observe: Everything moves and vibrates - even the observer. I acknowledge di-mensions are defined by the observer caught in the simulation, just as game-rules abound in other fractal representations of what is, like Phi, 1,618, Law of Attraction, mating rituals, heck, anything of culture. Dimensions, or dualities, are not the truth in and of themselves but tools to facilitate understanding. Is learning by observation a waste of time and mind? I would suppose the most ignorant and wasteful approach would be to insist that nothing but the extremes exist, or that everything is either/or - instead of all inclusive playing out within, or inside, different dimensions. When I travel on the inside of me I still feel I'm inside the illusion but moving within a different set of dimensions, or a different duality matrix, contained in the overall duality matrix conceived in the image of ONE (uni vers). On the inside I'm limitless but in a confined dimensional space, or duality matrix - if you like. Please be gentle. I feel like I'm asking the congregation to explain The Holy Trinity. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deekin 5,290 Report post Posted March 27, 2014 Confined limitlessness, until it becomes something else... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoneStarr Apophenius 3,735 Report post Posted March 28, 2014 Like free and limitless? Death shall set you free? Arbeit macht frei? Please, deekin, elaborate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arc 4,317 Report post Posted March 28, 2014 When I was very young.. I was beaten quite often.. For Saying.. "I wish I was dead, then I would know everything again" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deekin 5,290 Report post Posted March 28, 2014 Oh, I've used your own words but I think it nails it. It's all about perspective. You (we) can step back/up and see ourselves and our situation from a 'broader' viewpoint - and we don't have to be dead. LoneStarr: On the inside I'm limitless but in a confined dimensional space, or duality matrix - if you like. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deekin 5,290 Report post Posted March 28, 2014 What's the entity's quote?.... 'U r gods in your world....' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoneStarr Apophenius 3,735 Report post Posted March 28, 2014 So the Duality Matrix is the paradigm we see ourselves in and can escape only by looking at it in a broader perspective thereby transforming it into "something else" ? So if I get it right the Duality Matrix got nothing to do with dimensions or Aristotelian opposites or simple observations, it's paradigmatic thinking - in which case there is not just on DM but a lot of them around - like morals and dogma? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deekin 5,290 Report post Posted March 28, 2014 I thought you were describing your view in the earlier post. I believe we 'travel' in and through levels (for want of a better word) all the time in normal living. Sometimes we feel expansive but probably most of the time - not. 3D world is messy and complicated but we have to be here to 'get it'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoneStarr Apophenius 3,735 Report post Posted March 28, 2014 I imagine I'll get it tomorrow Until then I shall rest in the confines of my own DM, believing myself to be righteous and true. Thanks for being gentle. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deekin 5,290 Report post Posted March 28, 2014 Don't worry, you have the whole of your life to get it. And then the next one, or the next one.... But I don't think it's the enlightenment we have to get, it's the day to day stuff of experiencing understanding, compassion, rage, hatred, being the bully or the wimp - the whole lot. This image posted earlier says it for me: 16 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoneStarr Apophenius 3,735 Report post Posted March 28, 2014 Thanks deekin. "Faboulously flawed" I love it. I love you too. And I love CHANI Now I'm ready to go mess something up - unintentionally of cause, a stumble if you like. Beware, I'm here! 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddyke1 37 Report post Posted August 8, 2014 Hey, i wanted to ask about cyberdyne corporations. I heard it's a real company with a evil agenda.. I want to ask iff it's a real thing or just propagenda of fools. I also heard they made google as skynet. And sponsored making robotics and robot cars and stuff. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botanic 3,130 Report post Posted August 8, 2014 Yes Eddie, they are true, and they often employ fuckwits to do their spruiking for them, simple enough for you? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eddyke1 37 Report post Posted August 8, 2014 Yes Eddie, they are true, and they often employ fuckwits to do their spruiking for them, simple enough for you? Hey boetanic, i dont know what spruiking means, cant find it either on google. So iff you can explain to me what it is ? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phillipbbg 12,641 Report post Posted August 8, 2014 Hey boetanic, i dont know what spruiking means, cant find it either on google. So iff you can explain to me what it is ? spruik [sprook] Show IPA verb (used without object) Australian Slang.to make or give a speech, especially extensively or elaborately; spiel;orate. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Botanic 3,130 Report post Posted August 8, 2014 Eddie, when I looked at my reply to you this morning I didn't particularly like what I wrote as I thought you were someone else messing with us. I had forgotten you have just joined us, so my apologies to you mate. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LoneStarr Apophenius 3,735 Report post Posted August 9, 2014 http://www.cyberdyne.jp/english/products/HAL/index.html Hey Eddy. You might want to take a look at this thread. http://forums.thechaniproject.com/topic/6625-talos/ 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acolyte 4,073 Report post Posted August 9, 2014 Eddie, when I looked at my reply to you this morning I didn't particularly like what I wrote as I thought you were someone else messing with us. I had forgotten you have just joined us, so my apologies to you mate. You are a good and kind soul Botanic ... kudos to you 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
P's 2,974 Report post Posted November 22, 2014 some thoughts entered my mind today and i didn't know where or who to ask so if any 1 has some versions of answers much gratitude if not thanks for reading ! why has chaos greater power ? in order to avoid harm does one has to be relentless ? as animals builds immune systems and get or become ruthlessly neutral in order to see other light for other similar kinds? why has chaos greater power ? could it be the swirling rotaing thing thing that has/is depicted like the swastika sign and we are/were the other earth "proton" there are many talks of earth 2 and perhaps we are on the more negative throttling towards lighter spheres i believe to get the energy rolling one has to have two polar sides like north and south pole to get it moving maybe like a magnet could this explain why we are so powerful in mind but so fragile in flesh ? (are so powerful... maybe i mean as humans as a whole ) i am asking because one can't a way without the other as some sayings says i wondered also why they say it would be too painful for us humans to get through regression is it because we once had might be animal ? i read in bits of literature that higher beings could transform one to lower beings some way or the other 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites