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I have been trying to assess my feelings when watching news footage of the refugee situation and thought about it last night in bed. All I get is lambs being led to slaughter. I have no doubt that these people are being driven to Germany by some group for a reason. They have allegedly been given handbooks on how to get to Germany specficically and there does seem to be a definite drive by these refugees to get to Germany, even though they are passing through other countries on the way, so why is that?

There are three options here given that the PTW know that the domino's are falling (especially Ms Merkel and her cohorts) so they have to cover their tracks before everything collapses around them. This whole refugee situation has been created over time by initially funding ISIL to drive these people out of their homes by war and then there has been a well planned attempt to saturate Europe with what everyone apparently fears - those of the Muslim religion.

People on the net are trying to focus on Germany's need for a labour force, but I really don't think that is it because they could have just increased their legal immigration applications to 55 000 more immigrants and solved that problem.

No, this is being controlled very carefully. First option is to use these Muslim people to smuggle in ISIL terrorists or alternatively use these people as scapegoats for planned major attacks in Europe designed to take down the whole European region - which they hope will escalate their WWIII and NWO plan. We opened our borders and hearts to these people and they came in and started to kill us?

Two is that they just need a major diversion from the coming economic crash caused by the Cabal, the EU and the private bankers to bring about their NWO Agenda and this is how they are distracting the world masses (if you don't open your hearts to these people you are not a good human being).

Or three these people are being led into areas where they can easily be captured, killed off or maybe even used as slave labour in other offworld bases. Nothing would surprise me in this day and age. How will we ever know the real fate of these people say in six months time. They could simply disappear in Germany/Europe and the world would never know if they were alive or dead.

Just my thoughts.

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I am convinced Angela Merkel is nuts. No one in their right mind would say welcome all refugees...We will take you all.

She slams David Cameroon all the time for his anti-immagration stance, but saying welcome all is the wrong message.

I argued with my other half over the sleeper cells amongst the migrates as I read about it before the migrant crisis hit the MSM, but now I am not so sure. (I thought it was unfounded gossip). I.e. my belief/bubble in humanity may be sidelined by global events.

The last couple weeks has turned most people into mild racists. The PC brigade will love the chaos that ensues.

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What Jessica said about the thousands of migrants being disappeared in Germany really resonated with me because it just doesn't make sense that Merkel wouldn't know of the chaotic events she was creating and the sheer numbers involved. This whole thing reminds me of my feelings when Pres. O allowed thousands of unaccompanied children to enter the US, we still don't know the exact amount but it was a lot. What happened to them? Something felt really 'off' about the whole thing. Are they still coming over the border? News has dried up on that mass exodus of children.

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Actually, aren't we are all the same race, the human race. And Jess, doesn't that guy say people are being sent and they will pick them up when they are ready? I agree, many of them are scapegoats being used for a nefarious purpose. And I don't think the US was/is in war by herself- I think they are wars set up by elite globalists using American men and women as their fodder. Americans have very little say in what their government does or does not do. We are not one cohesive group and our government is very detached from the populace.

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I am convinced Angela Merkel is nuts. No one in their right mind would say welcome all refugees...We will take you all.

She slams David Cameroon all the time for his anti-immagration stance, but saying welcome all is the wrong message.

I argued with my other half over the sleeper cells amongst the migrates as I read about it before the migrant crisis hit the MSM, but now I am not so sure. (I thought it was unfounded gossip). I.e. my belief/bubble in humanity may be sidelined by global events.

The last couple weeks has turned most people into mild racists. The PC brigade will love the chaos that ensues.


The race card is void in this case, unless you start believing Muslims are a race. 

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YES! Same with USA. Reader: Refugee Crisis: Facts and Myths

Posted By: RumorMail [send E-Mail]

Date: Tuesday, 22-Sep-2015 14:35:35

In Response To: is the recent European MIGRANT CRISIS a carefully orchestrated martial law push for the EU and NATO? (FreePlanet)

Emphatically YES!


Refugee Crisis: Facts and Myths

How to answer the objections of pro-refugee friends and family

1. We have a duty to help those who flee war.

Answer: No war zone at the moment shares a border with the EU. Does our duty to help those who flee war also extend to those who have already been in safe areas, but chose to put themselves in harm’s way to reach Europe using smugglers?

2. If we don’t take the Syrians in, they are going to stay in Syria and die!

Answer: Again, most Syrians who reach Europe were already in Turkey, which is a peaceful country and welcomes Syrian refugees. Those who chose to come here were by no means under bombs and bullets before they came here, and could have stayed there and allowed the law to take its course and the UNHCR to resettle them in an orderly fashion.

[Refugees at the railway station in Gevgelija]

3. But aren’t these boat refugees the poorest of the poor that we have to take pity on and care for anyway?

Answer: The average boat refugee has paid somewhere between $600 and $20000 (depending on how far he has traveled and by which means) dollars per person to the criminal human traffickers and smugglers to get to the country of his choice in Europe.

People with that kind of money at their disposal in the Third World are not poor by any means and can have a relatively comfortable life in whatever Middle Eastern region that they live in, and don’t need to come to us for help.

By contrast those refugees who are not leaving their camps in the Middle East and stay there patiently are the poorest ones, and they should be the object of our compassion. But now, unfortunately, because of this illegal influx of boat refugees, no time, money, or attention is left for us to devote to them, and this is indeed an unjust state of affairs that should have never been allowed to come about.

4. You mean we shouldn’t care and we shouldn’t help anybody?

Answer: Of course we don’t mean that. But help should be given wisely and in an orderly fashion. We also have to make sure that we help the refugees in a way which would not destroy our financial ability to help our own people and other people in need as well.

If instead of allowing and even encouraging all refugees to take risky journeys on inflated boats to come here, we were to close the borders of the EU and concentrate our efforts on helping the refugees who are in camps in the Middle East, and provided them with bigger and better camps and financial help, we would be able to help a lot more people at a much lower cost. Not to mention that we would not run the risk of wasting our resources on people who are posing as refugees just in order to be able to live in Europe.

[Refugees rescued under Operation Mare Nostrum #02]

5. But Isn’t this the biggest humanitarian crisis since WWII?

Answer: This crisis did not come about because the Syrian war is the bloodiest war since WWII or that more people are being killed or become homeless than ever before. As tragic and unfortunate as the Syrian civil war is, it is neither the first war that we have faced in the Middle East, nor the longest, nor the severest. And yet we never before had a flood of refugees into Europe like the one that we are experiencing today.

So what has happened? What has changed?

The truth is that the current crisis is not a humanitarian crisis, but a mismanagement crisis. It is because for the first time during a conflict the EU authorities have decided not enforce the regular EU border controls and have decided to allow whoever who claims to be a refugee to come and go as he pleases within the EU.

Also the statements issued by the German and Swedish governments a few months ago, which stated that they will receive hundreds of thousands of refugees from Syria, has prompted a mad rush and a stampede amongst the people in the Middle East and the Third World to get themselves as soon as possible to these two countries before they announce that their quota is filled.

6. The UN convention on war refugees which we have signed compels us to take all the Syrian refugees in without any border formalities or even personal documents.

Answer: Then UN convention only says those who are “prima face” refugees, meaning are observed by border guards crossing the border of a war zone to a peaceful zone, are to be granted passage without border formalities. Obviously if the guards see that a person is coming from a war area they know and can be sure that he is a real refugee. But that sort of certainty exists only when the refugee crosses the border of the war zone into a peaceful one.

As the law was interpreted until recently, a refugee who is already in a peaceful country should apply for a refugee registration with UNHCR in order for him to be officially recognised as a refugee.

Also, if he wanted to cross other borders between the peaceful country in which he resided and other countries he should have applied for a visa or should have waited for the UN to resettle him in a country that agreed to grant him asylum.

But now the law is being unreasonably misinterpreted as saying that a person CLAIMING to be a refugee, even with no papers to prove it, should be allowed to cross ANY border (not just the one between the war zone and a peaceful country) as long as the conflict lasts in his country. This reading of the law opens us up for much abuse and fraud. This is an unnecessary reading which is also unprecedented in the history, and has caused the stampede of the people of the Third World, claiming to be from Syria and other war zones without documents to prove it, into the EU and from there usually to a Northern European country of their choice. The law should be interpreted correctly in order for the lawless flow of refugees to stop.

7. It would be inhumane to send the refugees back to Syria in the midst of a war.

Answer: We don’t have to send anybody back to Syria. The refugees didn’t come from Syria, but from Turkey. The first thing that we have to do is prevent them from entering the EU zone. If we were to intercept the boats which are bringing refugees to Europe, and instead of towing them to Greece, tow them back to Turkey, the problem would be solved and the flood would stop.

[illegal immigrants near the Hungarian-Serbian border]

8. But we have to take some Syrian refugees! After all there is a war going on there and we should care.

Answer: Yes, we should indeed. But we should go back to the lawful and orderly system that we used to have in the past when the refugees registered with the UNHCR as soon as they came out of the war zone, waited in a camp in the nearby region and some of them, according to the decision of each country, were resettled and distributed amongst different countries via UNHCR.

In addition to that, studies have shown that it is best for the refugees to be housed in humane and comfortable but temporary camps in the region of their homeland so that after the war ends they would have more incentive to go back to their homeland and rebuild it. This helps the post-war countries to recover much faster and decreases the risk of those countries reverting to conflict and a cycle of violence.

9. Isn’t temporary settlement of refugees in temporary camps to wait for the end of the war inhumane? Shouldn’t we bring them here and give them a permanent home here? After all it is cruel to make people put their lives on hold instead of starting a new life in a new country?

Answer: Moving to a far away country will also put the immigrant’s life on hold for many year! First of all, the asylum process itself takes 1-4 years, during which the asylum-seeker’s life will be on hold in the most nerve-wracking way.

Even after the asylum is granted, it takes many many years for an immigrant to settle in his new country and actually start his new life in earnest. Most of the time it takes a number of years for him to learn the new local language to a practical level and learn to navigate the new society. Not to mention that if he is sent too far from his homeland, the climate, the language, the culture and social customs and religion will be so different from what he is used to that he might never adapt and feel himself at home at all, and he might experience severe depression and alienation, or even get into conflict with the local society.

In comparison, nowadays wars usually end on average in 4-5 years. It is much easier for him to put his life on hold for those years somewhere near his home and then go back and participate in the crucial and important task of rebuilding his homeland, than to risk moving far away to a strange land.

War is a horrible tragedy and to go through a war without losing something is impossible. If one goes through a war by losing just a few years of his fully active life and nothing else, he should count himself lucky!

10. But now that the boat refugees are here anyway, shouldn’t we welcome them with open arms and hearts?

Answer: The fact of the matter is that the boat refugees have chosen to take advantage of a bad situation in Syria and use their financial resources and EU authorities’ lax border control to jump the queue and go over the heads of UNHCR and our approved refugee quotas, to force their way into our countries. Also, on their long march from Greece to Northern Europe often they have not shown considerate and peaceful behaviour, and have resorted to violence and disobedience towards the law enforcement officers in various countries who wanted to apply the law to them.

Many of the boat refugees have no documentation showing that they are who they say they are and that they really have come from a war zone. In such a lawless atmosphere it is obvious that many opportunists from the peaceful countries in the region have mixed themselves in with the ones coming from war zones, and we have no way to separate them from each other before a lengthy and costly authentication process takes its course.

Not to mention that their queue-jumping has completely drained our resources and disabled us from helping the refugees who are in desperate need and are waiting in the camps in the Middle East for our help.

Do you think that lawbreakers and queue jumpers should be rewarded with #RefugeesWelcome campaigns and an outpouring of love and welcoming sentiments, or that they should be rebuked and frowned upon? We citizens of civilised societies should in no way condone lawless behaviour and an abuse of our humanitarian system. In the end I must add that misguided kindness expressed in the #RefugeesWelcome campaign will encourage and embolden even more people to take their chances and journey to Europe without going through the necessary legal formalities. And that would be an unwelcome side effect of well-meaning but misguided gestures such as these.

11. Why should I care about this issue and speak against it? Why not go with the flow and avoid having people judge me as cruel and xenophobic?

Answer: Because first of all, we should care about the truth, and about exposing waste, fraud and abuse whether it comes from the authorities that allowed this lawless state of affairs to start and take hold, or from the people claiming to be refugees who have left peaceful countries in a mad dash for Europe without being in any kind of urgent need to be here.

We should not allow unscrupulous people to take advantage of our goodwill and strong-arm us into giving in to their unreasonable demands. Nor should we let our governments off the hook for creating such a mess in our midst!

[Migrants at the railway station in Vienna, September 2015]


In addition the drain that this lawless chaos has caused for us, it will also eat into our valuable and very limited resources to achieve the following important and necessary things:

1. Take care of our own needy and vulnerable citizens who should be our first priority.

2. Help the real refugees who are registered with UNHCR and would really benefit from our attention and financial help.

3. Contribute to Syria’s rebuilding once the war is over.

4. Help any other country in need.

5. Find a way to sort out EU’s financial crisis that has plagued Greece and Italy and many other EU nations.

6. Preserve the freedom of movement within the EU zone as per the Schengen Accord.

7. Avoid raising taxes or cutting benefits for the citizens of European countries who now have to finance this “refugee crisis”.

8. Prevent our streets and neighbourhoods from becoming the roaming place for people whose backgrounds are not checked and whose identities cannot be established, and who could be criminals.

9. Protect our countries from possible terrorist infiltration and attacks.

10. Preserve our cultural integrity and social cohesion.

I hope these ten reasons will seem urgent and important enough to you to prompt you to speak up and become active and to overcome the fear of being labeled and judged as a “racist” or “xenophobe”!

In the past our forefathers risked life and limb to hand this magnificent continent to us. What is weathering the storm of some unjust criticism and finger-pointing from the scoffers, in comparison to their sacrifices? Those who would chastise and label us today will thank us tomorrow for saving our countries from a total disaster.


Source http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=28247

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The squeaky wheel gets the grease it seems...in all this hoopla over the invasion, we have mostly overlooked the poor refugees who are doing it right and going to the camps in hopes of help. Same in US, all the fuss and expenses spent on the illegals, while there are still thousands of people waiting for their chance at citizenship who have gone about it legally. Some have been on the wait list for years.

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The race card is void in this case, unless you start believing Muslims are a race.

why not?

most today believe jews are a race

like most think Alexander the Great was a slav

war is peace

ignorance is strength


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Oh please do not infer the race card.

I live in a western country (UK). The race card pisses me off. Race/religion/colour or creed is time and again used. As soon as it's mentioned we are on the back foot as if we are doing something wrong.

It's used as an argument, very much like anti-semtism, let's throw in those words and in one big throw the original concept/idea/thought has been destroyed as the Race card has been played.

Generally it's an invalid argument but been one by suggesting it's not PC.

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We're doomed: EU chief fears union will COLLAPSE over migrant crisis


THE European Union has lost control of its borders and risks total collapse if they are not sealed, a senior Brussels diplomat has warned.


Donald Tusk, president of the European Council, warned the EU was now facing a "critical point" and that the migrant crisis hadn't even reached its peak.

As he chaired an emergency meeting of EU leaders in Brussels last night Mr Tusk painted a bleak picture of the EU's future, saying the 28-member bloc was on the verge of breakdown with "recriminations and misunderstanding" pitting nations against one another.

The future of free movement was at stake, he said, as the continent had lost control of its borders as well as a "sense of order".



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This crisis is playing into the hands of the likes of Nigel Farage who is campaigning to leave Europe.

His predictions are now coming true.

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Germany in a state of SIEGE: Merkel was cheered when she opened the floodgates to migrants. Now, with gangs of men roaming the streets and young German women being told to cover up, the mood's changing


On the busy shopping street in Giessen, a German university town twinned with Winchester, migrant Atif Zahoor tucks into a chicken dish with his brother and cousin at the curry restaurant Chillie To Go.

They have left good jobs back in Karachi, Pakistan, and now want to be Europeans.
In late July the three slipped into Germany with their wives and children, using illegal documents. They live together in a five-bedroom house, rented for them by Chancellor Angela Merkel’s government, a 40-minute drive away from Giessen, which is home to the biggest migrants’ camp in the country.

We paid a trafficking agent for false visas to fly here to Germany,’ says 34-year-old Atif. ‘We claimed asylum and came to Giessen camp with other migrants. Three weeks ago, because we had families, they gave us a proper home.’
Atif is well-dressed and speaks perfect English. He used to be a transport manager at Karachi airport and is from a well-to-do family. Between mouthfuls of curry, he adds: ‘But there is violence between political gangs in Karachi. Lots of people are leaving for Europe. The trafficker decided that Germany was the place for us because it is welcoming refugees.’



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Dale Hurd   CBN news channel


Published on Sep 24, 2015

I sat down recently with Robert Spencer, author of The Complete Infidel's Guide to ISIS, to discuss the terror group's plan for Rome. While the idea of ISIS conquering Rome may sound ridiculous, Quranic Muslims --not just in ISIS-- believe the fall of Rome must take place before the final battle against the infidel armies at Dabiq, Syria and the return of the Mahdi, the Muslim "messiah."

Oh, and ISIS also plans to behead the Pope. The interview is below.

Robert Spencer on ISIS' Intent to Conquer Rome and Behead the Pope


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Who is twitter-luring refugees to Germany?
by  Andrey Fomin

This study adds to the preceding. It shows that the current wave of migration to Europe is organized to direct human crowds to Germany.


Content-analysis of a great number of tweets that triggered the ongoing wave of migration from Turkey to Germany since August this year suggests that these human streams were inspired and channeled from outside of the continental Europe.

According to Vladimir Shalak [1] from the Russian Academy of Science who developed the Internet Content-Analysis System for Twitter (Scai4Twi), his study of over 19000 refugees-related original tweets (retweets discounted) demonstrates that the vast majority of them mention Germany and Austria as the most refugee-welcoming countries in Europe:

2_-_1_10_-b90f1.jpgCounties mentioned in tweets containing #Refugees hashtag, percent

Importantly, 93% of all tweets dedicated to Germany contained positive references to German hospitality and its refugee policy:

• Germany Yes! Leftists spray a graffiti on a train sayin “Welcome, refugees” in Arabic 
• Lovely people – video of Germans welcoming Syrian refugees to their community 
• Respect! Football fans saying “Welcome Refugees” across stadiums in Germany. _ • This Arabic Graffiti train is running in Dresden welcoming refugees: (ahlan wa sahlan – a warm welcome). 
• ‘We love Germany!,’ cry relieved refugees at Munich railway station 
• Thousands welcome refugees to Germany – Sky News Australia 
• Wherever this German town is that welcomed a coach of Syrian refugees with welcome signs and flowers -thank you.

Analysis of 5704 original tweets containing #RefugeesWelcome” hashtag and a country name lead to even larger gap between Germany and the rest of Europe:


The next step is to study the source twitter accounts where the hashtag #RefugeesWelcome + Germany originate. Next diagram shows the countries of origin of the relevant twitter accounts (where they could be idenfitied):



Please read the rest at the source: http://www.voltairenet.org/article188774.html

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Refugees Flooding to Europe

Could you please do a reading about the high number of refugees, which are now flooding into Germany. It is estimated that this year alone are coming 1 million refugees, next year 2 or even more million.

Already now, there is not enough housing space for the 1 million refugees. They already have occupied sport arenas, military barracks, business rooms etc. Many refugees have to live in tents and winter is coming....

There are mainly coming men (over 95 %). Do they want to bring their families later? I just heard about the "Hooton Plan": The Harvard University professor’s proposal called for genetically transforming the German nation by encouraging mating of German women with non-German men, who would be brought into the country in large numbers, and of German men, forcibly held outside of Germany, with non-German women. Ten to twelve million German men would be assigned to forced labor under Allied supervision in countries outside of Germany to rebuild their economies. “The objects of this measure,” wrote Dr. Hooton, “include reduction of the birthrate of ‘pure’ Germans, neutralization of German aggressiveness by outbreeding and denationalization of indoctrinated individuals.”

This plan, Hooton estimated, would require at least 20 years to be implemented. “During this period,” he went on, “encourage also the immigration and settlement in the German states of non-German nationals, especially males.”


Q. They whole situation is really crazy and does not look good for Germany future, IMO. What do you see? Why is this allowed? What will happen?

A. I see that this is a manufactured situation created by the US, Britain and Israel. These three powers have combined efforts for many reasons in order to strengthen their political foothold to try to maintain control...

Right now there are tensions brewing between China / Russia and the US. North Korea is also angered, but they are a secondary concern as of right now. The US needs a foothold in Syria to monitor what is going on between China and Russia, and also form some kind of barrier to make trade or interactions a little more difficult (especially now that China is influencing the stock market with their tactics, which was in part "pay back" for the manipulation of oil prices). The best way to do that is to destabilize Syria, make sure their fighting forces (the Syrians) are depleted so they cannot be recruited to fight, and put US (and British) soldiers on the ground in that area. As I tune into this situation I see the movie Confessions of an Economic Hitman come to me as a clue as to how this plan was established and executed.

I also see that Europe doesn't want to fight with the US (should the tensions with China and Russia escalate). They will ally the US as a "safe haven", but don't want involved in a war or confrontation. These countries have created question in the eyes of the US, and there is concern as to what side they would pick if Russia were to show some dominance or force. Creating financial struggles to make sure they cannot fund a war and having a huge influx of people creates a situation in which there is no way they want to side with anyone. It is like Europe has a dormant feeling with regard to fighting. They have far bigger concerns right now, which is how this was planned.

There is a focus on Germany with this as well. Germany has to "play nice" and act as a team since it was blamed for World War, but deep down Germany holds a lot of resentment because the facts that were relayed and handed down through the generations were manipulated and changed. Germany wants to break away, but won't be allowed. The Germans also wanted their gold back, which is a huge threat to the US because as long as the US holds their gold, there is some hold on the country. In looking at this more, I also see the current Volkswagon scandal tied to this as well. This VW situation now coming to light, and push back will be directed at the German company which will be costly and also effect their reputation. Germany needs us to sell their cars, and I see some kind of barter or deal being forced out of this situation. I see a cartoon play out in which a character representing the US is talking to a German character, and the US is saying, "If you won't play nice WITH us, we will force your hand in ways you cannot imagine."

I ultimately see the US occupying Syria, and they will fight off some of the radical groups in the area that don't like the US and can see what is really happening. Europe will be in a major financial crisis, and I see the wealthy going in and buying things for pennies on the dollar. The wealthy look to get wealthier, and the poor look to pay the price.

And that is all I have for this reading. Thank you. Love and light-

Source http://psychicfocus.blogspot.com.au/

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Trojan Horse? They don't seem to be there for the opportunities. So you give them the houses, the businesses, let them run the schools? Can they, will they or will they just keep destroying everything they do not understand about how people peacefully live together and thrive, following their believed mission?

How can you expect them to just walk in and take over a City, Town or Country without turning it into the exact Country, City, State they just left. And with the money they display, they could band together and take back their lands. There are that many of them.

I don't know what else to think. Stephan Hawking said something about how the next world war after this would be fought with sticks.

Maybe they are going to win the battle with manpower rather than tanks and artillery.  Is this what he was referring to or did someone decide he was right and the best tactic was to send in wolves in sheeps-clothing under the guise of pc rather than use nuclear warfare?


Someone is using these masses. They are invaders.

I wish Europe could really help all the persecuted people seeking asylum and weed out the warriors.

 This is seemingly turning out really bad and I am afraid for Europe.

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The US was created as a prodigy of the intended global model

The world's ultimate superpower financial war machine of multiethnic disjointed heritage.

US and subsequently global society has staved animocity in favour of an imaginary quasi empirical valuation of ones standing within the power/money/food chain

A chain that binds all in mental thus spiritual bondage

A chain freely imposed on oneself,albeit by coercion, in the form of dollar debt slavery based on ONLY petroleum, administered by chairs and vassals and 'their' god (luci/trans-luci) enforced by maximum doses of the most horrific negativity imaginable and intended via the war machine

All know what i write of, or parts thereof

i was domicile in a west African as a youth, i felt it in my core, the inequality defining the master stroke of the system/reality we support and further to our own demise

Information is key, no more secrets is the only system i support

Every bodies skeletons in full view

Technologies liberated

Origins unravelled

Let every man decide for himself fully informed and current

I true cosmic grid of minds and the full potential of mankind one step closer

Or boring old reset

But this time around accompanied by complete capitulation of potential cosmic greatness to the lunatic


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