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I find I agree with him.  I've been listening, reading, thinking, this whole thing doesn't make sense, unless the intent is to use the women/children somehow.  

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Yep, they're walking ! 




http://www.tabascohoy.com/nota/458827/se-acerca-a-mexico-tercera-caravana-de-migrante - a third caravan from El Salvador


All of these can be translated.  Some were throwing molotov cocktails at Mexican Federal Police and tried to bring down a Police helicopter .


The UN has their say..............

United Nations: Trump Must Allow Caravan Migrants into America

John Binder       Oct. 29, 2018

"International officials with the United Nations (UN) Refugee Agency say President Trump must allow a caravan of Central Americans into the United States to seek asylum.

As Breitbart News has chronicled, migrants with an at least 7,000-strong caravan have repeatedly admitted that they are traveling to the U.S. to seek jobs, re-enter the U.S. as previously deported illegal aliens, and flee crime. One previously deported illegal alien with the caravan even admitted that he was convicted of attempted murder in the U.S. None of these cases are eligible asylum claims.

The UN Refugee Agency, though, is commanding Trump to accept the caravan of refugees, which some estimates now put at 10,000-strong. In an interview with Voice of America, a spokesman for the UN Refugee Agency said:"




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Young Angry Men & Gangbangers March Towards U.S. Yelling “Vamos Para Allá Trump!”

An article from Judicial Watch on Oct. 23, 2018


"Besides gang members and mobs of young angry men, the Central American caravan making its way into the United States also consists of Africans, Bangladeshis, Sri Lankans and Indians. Judicial Watch is covering the crisis from the Guatemalan-Honduran border this week and observed that the popular mainstream media narrative of desperate migrants—many of them women and children—seeking a better life is hardly accurate. Guatemalan intelligence officials confirmed that the caravan that originated in the northern Honduran city of San Pedro Sula includes a multitude of Special Interest Aliens (SIA) from the countries listed above as well as other criminal elements and gang members.

There are also large groups of men, some with criminal histories, aggressively demanding that the U.S. take them in. During a visit to the Guatemalan town of Chiquimula, about 35 miles from the Honduran border, Judicial Watch encountered a rowdy group of about 600 men, ages 17 to about 40, marching north on a narrow two-lane highway. Among them was a 40-year-old Honduran man who previously lived in the United States for decades and got deported. His English was quite good, and he said his kids and girlfriend live in the U.S. Another man in his 30s contradicted media reports that caravan participants are fleeing violence and fear for their life. “We’re not scared,” he said waving his index finger as others around him nodded in agreement. “We’re going to the United States to get jobs.” Others chanted “vamos para allá Trump!” (We’re coming Trump) as they clenched their fists in the air. “We need money and food,” said a 29-year-old man who made the trek with his 21-year-old brother.

All of the migrants interviewed by Judicial Watch repeated the same rehearsed line when asked who organized the caravan, insisting it was a spontaneous event even though there were clearly organizers shouting instructions in Spanish and putting select persons in front of cameras for interviews. A few claimed they heard about it on local news in Honduras. All of them said the caravan was not about politics but rather poverty. “I just want to get back to the U.S.,” said a 32-year-old man who admitted he has been deported from the U.S. twice. “We are all just looking for work.” The group radiated a sense of empowerment. One marcher, who appeared to be in his late teens, yelled “you go live in Honduras and see what it’s like!”

Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernández, a conservative, said in a local newspaper report that leftist interests seeking to destabilize the country are manipulating migrants.  Women and children are being used without regard to the risks to their lives, Hernández said. “The irregular mobilization was organized for political reasons to negatively affect the governance and image of Honduras and to destabilize the peace of neighboring countries,” the president said, adding that many have returned to the country after realizing they’ve been fooled."


https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2018/10/young-angry-men-gangbangers-march-towards-u-s-yelling-vamos-para-alla-trump/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=corruption chronicles

This is sad on many different levels. However old this article is, I'd trust Judicial Watch to tell the truth about the caravans, over any MSM outlet.

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Ami Horowitz: The Truth Behind the Caravan


UN Agenda as plain as day, and now Mexican people are protesting these people's presence in their country too.

'We don't want you here': Mexicans protest against migrant caravan


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https://imgur.com/a/waS8D7a - good question

https://www.breitbart.com/news/judge-bars-us-from-enforcing-trump-asylum-ban/   < Since when do "illegal" immigrants have US Constitutional rights?  Well, I guess since they also seem to think they have the right to jobs, SS, welfare, medical, housing, EBT etc. Come in legally, and be prepared to take care of yourself, or come in with a sponsor who will foot the bill for you, until you can take care of yourself.  Perhaps Judge Jon S. Tigar would be willing to support you, until you are able to do so.  Mexico already offered these people asylum, and they refused.  Back in the 50's my Aunt and Uncle sponsored a family from Romania.  What they were required to provide for that family, for one year after they arrived, BEFORE they were even allowed to immigrate, would make you shake your head.   My how things have changed!



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"Trust, respect, agreement, and rewards have to be earned, not simply expected or demanded. "

I found this line under Simon Sinek's vid phillipbbg posted, and felt SOOOOOOOO applicable for loads of things.......

So much so that I think I'd include this line in my signature here. Far out well stated.

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Mexico agrees to Trump policy forcing migrants to wait in Mexico as asylum requests processed: report

Tal Axelrod          Nov. 24, 2018

"Mexico’s incoming administration has agreed to support a new policy from the Trump White House that would require migrants seeking asylum to remain in Mexico as their requests are processed, The Washington Post reported Saturday.

Mexican officials and senior members of president-elect Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s transition team told The Post that the incoming administration accepted the plan, called “Remain in Mexico,” in a sharp change to long-standing asylum rules that allowed migrants to file asylum claims after entering the U.S. either legally or illegally. 

“For now, we have agreed to this policy of Remain in Mexico,” Olga Sánchez Cordero, Mexico’s incoming interior minister and the top domestic policy official for the president-elect, told The Post, calling it a “short-term solution.”

“The medium- and long-term solution is that people don’t migrate,” Sánchez Cordero added. “Mexico has open arms and everything, but imagine, one caravan after another after another, that would also be a problem for us.” 

Neither the White House or the Department of Homeland Security immediately responded to requests for comment from The Hill.

While U.S. officials told The Post they are wary the deal could fall apart, they view it as a breakthrough in negotiations with Mexico that they believe could deter further migration to the southern border. "



Mexico to deport nearly 500 migrants who tried to ‘violently’ cross US border

Justine Wise                  Nov. 25, 2018

"Mexico is set to deport nearly 500 migrants who attempted to storm the southern U.S. border on Sunday. 

The country's interior ministry said in a statement that a group was rounded up after it tried to cross the border "violently" and "illegally," according to BBC. The interior ministry added that all those who tried to cross the border would be deported immediately and that the migrants disobeyed the legal migration framework.

The announcement comes as tensions continue to mount as a band of thousands of Central Americans fleeing violence reach the U.S.-Mexico border. 

Video footage showed dozens of people running towards a border fence in the city of Tijuana. The news agency, AFP, also reported that many managed to climb over the first border fence that separates the U.S. from Mexico. 

Some reportedly tried to breach a second border fence, which led to U.S. border agents firing tear gas on a crowd of people.

The news service noted that the breeze carried the tear gas from border agents "hundreds of yards," causing parents to run away with their "choking toddlers."

snip  So why would any parent with "toddlers" in tow, try to violently storm the border? Why subject them to this? Why not apply for legal status instead? 



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 A Mexican police official addresses some migrants.


Some Caravan Migrants Return Home Fearing Violent Clashes at U.S. Border

Ildefonso Ortiz             Nov. 26, 2018

"A collection of Central American caravan migrants in Tijuana and some still camped in Mexico City decided to return home–citing fear of violent clashes with authorities. Several claim they were promised an easy journey with minimal resistance from U.S. officials.

In Mexico City, several migrants are seeking a return home after growing tired from waiting weeks in shelters and growing fearful of rising violence at the border, Mexico’s Siete24 reported. The news site spoke with Maritza Del Carmen Mendez, a Salvadoran migrant, who claimed she left her country in October but is afraid of tensions surrounding the caravan and the escalation of conflicts at the U.S. border. The woman said that she is planning to return home until her relatives in the U.S. can arrange her journey with a human smuggler.




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Tuberculosis, Chicken Pox, HIV/AIDS: A Third of Caravan Migrants Have Serious Health Problems

Lukas Mikelionis                Nov. 29, 2018

"Over 2,267 people are being treated, Tijuana's data show


Migrants who came with the caravan are suffering from respiratory infections, tuberculosis, chickenpox and other serious health issues, Tijuana’s Health Department warned on Thursday morning.

The spokesman told Fox News that out of 6,000 migrants currently residing in the city, over a third of them (2,267) are being treated for health-related issues.

There are three confirmed cases of tuberculosis, four cases of HIV/AIDS and four separate cases of chickenpox, the spokesman said.

At least 101 migrants have lice and multiple instances of skin infections, the department’s data shows.

There’s also a threat of Hepatitis outbreak due to unsanitary conditions, the spokesman said.

The thousands of migrants are being sheltered at the Benito Juarez Sports Complex near the San Ysidro U.S.-Mexico Port of Entry, even though the place is capable of providing for 1,000 people.

The location also has only 35 portable bathrooms.

A sign reading “No Spitting” was put up, as coughing and spitting by caravan migrants are rampant in the shelter."




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This is about preserving your own culture, too.

I'm more and more realising that because of the majority wishing to retain their happy state that they are used to should never be disregarded over the unreasonable level of demand using Human Rights flags, because there's NO ONE WINNING by pushing loads of MAJORITY of the population by applying HR justice of MINORITY. Why the majority should lose their happiness..........IF THERE IS A WAY TO AVOID ALL THIS?

And I say YES we have the way to avoid all of this.

Use the sea.

Use the Mega Floats and set up the refugee camps on top of it with infrastructures like hospitals to the immigration processing place on it.

Stop try to accept foreigners who don't even try to meet in the mid way and just keep on demanding what they want and ransack what it used to be normal for you now dissipated with additional anger, phobia and real victims of crimes.

We can't help being humans yeah? 

We get rubbed on a lot trying so hard to be politically correct.

If we are to lose our peace by accepting influx of people, no point in doing it forcefully.

Because it's threatening the MAJORITY.

Problem appear, then shifting the people in need of help all the time into established countries just cause heaps more hustles mentally and physically to EVERYONE.

So I feel we should stop that way of outreaching to the people in the need. Thus the Mega Floats idea.


We can't say we won't have huge problems in future, unfortunately.

But when the situations such as wars to mass-sickness etc rise, we just should stop people expecting to move to an/other country/ies.

Let's have a safe place for them on the sea, away from the troubles. Yes it works as the Quarantine for all of us, too.

We shouldn't accept planted terrorists, hybrids and war professionals who are hiding among the real people in need.

I think it's also politically correct to protect MAJORITY as well as MINORITY, yeah?


But they don't need to come to live with us. They can safely stay on the near by sea. (Mega Floats can be pulled around.)

When the problem on the land subsides, they can safely return to their land from the Mega Floats.

Then no one loses, everyone wins.

Ooops, spoken too early....yes there are people who lose over this...that's all the nasty factions against us, the Humanity.

Their plots against us crumbles.

We won't have wars, numerous sufferings including rapes to robberies to loss of culture, people killing themselves or attacking others so Loosh production goes far down and "they" suffer, and able to give far more secure and sound environments for our children to grow safely. 

It's obvious what should be done now, IMHO.

....What would you say, if we can do it as the Humanity?

We win either way, though! 


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Migrant caravan grows as Mexico fast-tracks humanitarian visas

Jan. 23, 2019   CBS

"A migrant caravan trying to reach the U.S. is expected to grow as thousands gather at Mexico's southern border awaiting entry. Last week, Mexico decided to fast-track humanitarian visas so migrants can enter legally and nearly 8,000 people have applied. So far, more than 500 visas have been issued.

Thousands of migrants are gathered on both sides of Mexico-Guatemala border because of the five-day waiting period to get visas. Now, those who had originally entered Mexico illegally are trying to backtrack to the border, so they too can get visas, reports CBS News' Adriana Diaz.

As the buses arrived in Tapachula, 15 miles north of the border, desperation set in. The lines began forming before dawn Tuesday as word spread that the Mexican government was transporting migrants who had entered illegally to get humanitarian visas."

snip  less than 50%


What is it these thousands don't get, that there IS a legal way to immigrate, and an illegal way.  IF you break the laws to get into any country, then you become a criminal in that country.  Is that a better life than what you already have?  The US sends millions of dollars in aid to these very countries, every year.  Perhaps it's time to call for an accounting of where and how exactly those funds are being used.  We are a nation of some 325 million people, with probably 1/3 working and paying taxes.  How many billions other than ourselves, can we support? There comes a point where it just is not possible any longer. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against helping people, but how about the expense being shared among all countries.  Perhaps the question we should ask is, who's paying for those busses transporting them to the border? I see this as a manufactured invasion, the same as what's happening all over Europe.  Driven by those who want a one world order, and with no thought or consideration for the humans involved.

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