Jump to content
The CHANI Project Conspiracy Forum
WellNow

ON THE EDGE OF TIME: The Mystery of Time Slips

Recommended Posts

Another one for the archives from http://uforeview.tripod.com/timeslips.html :

 

 

Time is a funny thing. There never seems to be enough -- yet there is an infinite amount. Time slips through moment upon second into eternity past; yet present, to begin the future.

Time is thought to be unstoppable in its relentless push towards the future. Humans perceive themselves as bound up in time as an insect in amber. Forever imprisoned and forced to reconcile with the regularity and inevitability of change. The past is gone -- the present, fleeting -- and the future is unknown.  Or is it?

If a Merseyside policeman by the name of Frank was asked, he may have an entirely different opinion on the subject of time.

On a sunny Saturday afternoon in July of 1996, Frank and his wife, Carol was visiting Liverpool's Bold Street area for some shopping. At Central Station, the pair split up; Carol went to Dillons Bookshop and Frank went to HMV to look for a CD he wanted. As he walked up the incline near the Lyceum Post Office/Café building that lead onto Bold Street, Frank suddenly noticed he had entered a strange "oasis of quietness."

Suddenly, a small box van that looked like something out of the 1950s sped across his path, honking its horn as it narrowly missed him. Frank noticed the name on the van's side: "Caplan's." When he looked down, the confused policeman saw that he was unexpectedly standing in the road. The off-duty policeman crossed the road and saw that Dillons Book Store now had "Cripps" over its entrances. More confused, he looked in to see not books, but women's handbags and shoes.

Looking around, Frank realized people were dressed in clothes that appeared to be from the 1940s. Suddenly, he spotted a young girl in her early 20's dressed in a lime-colored sleeveless top. The handbag she was carrying had a popular brand name on it, which reassured the policeman that maybe he was still partly in 1996. It was a paradox, but he was relieved, and he followed the girl into Cripps.

As the pair went inside, Frank watched in amazement as the interior of the building completely changed in a flash to that of Dillons Bookshop of 1996. The girl turned to leave and Frank lightly grasped the girl's arm to attract attention and said, "Did you see that?"

She replied, "Yeah! I thought it was a clothes shop. I was going to look around, but it's a bookshop."

It was later determined that Cripps and Caplan's were businesses based in Liverpool during the 1950s. Whether these businesses were based in the locations specified in the story has not been confirmed. 1

Frank's experience is not that unusual in the realm of strange phenomenon. There is even a name given to such events -- time slips.

A time slip is an event where it appears that some other era has briefly intruded on the present. A time slip seems to be spontaneous in nature and localization, but there are places on the planet that seem to be more prone than others to time slip events. As well, some people may be more inclined to experience time slips than others. If time then is the unmovable force that physicists say it is, why do some people have experiences that seem to flaunt this concept?
 

THE NATURE OF TIME

Much of ancient Greek philosophy was concerned with understanding the concept of eternity, and the subject of time is central to all the world's religions and cultures. Can the flow of time be stopped or slowed? Certainly some mystics thought so. Angelus Silesius, a 17th-century philosopher and poet, thought the flow of time could be suspended by mental powers:
 

Time is of your own making;
its clock ticks in your head.
The moment you stop thought
time too stops dead.

The line between science and mysticism sometimes grows thin. Today physicists would agree that time is one of the strangest properties of our universe. In fact, there is a story circulating among scientists of an immigrant to America who has lost his watch. He walks up to a man on a New York street and asks, "Please, Sir, what is time?" The scientist replies, "I'm sorry, you'll have to ask a philosopher. I'm just a physicist."

Time travel, according to modern scientific theory, may still be beyond our grasp. Yet for a number of people who have had unusual time slip experiences, time may be easier to circumnavigate than expected.

A classic example of a time slip can be seen in a note from Lyn in Australia. Lyn had read the book, Time Travel: A How-To Insiders Guide, (Global Communications, 1999) and thought her experience was similar to others featured in the book.

In 1997 Lyn lived in a small outback town that was built in 1947 and had changed little since that time.

"I was driving toward the main intersection of the town, when suddenly I felt a change in the air. It wasn't the classic colder feeling, but a change, like a shift in atmosphere. The air felt denser somehow. As I slowed at the intersection, I seemed to be suddenly transported back in time to approximately 1950. The road was dirt, the trees were gone and coming toward me to cross the intersection was an old black car, something like a Vanguard or old FJ Holden. As the car passed through the intersection the driver was looking back at me in total astonishment before he accelerated. From what I could see he was dressed in similar 1950s fashion, complete with hat.

"This whole episode lasted perhaps 20 seconds and was repeated at least 5 times during my time there, always at the exact spot. I tried to make out the registration plate number but the car was covered in dust."

Lyn wondered if there is someone out there still living who remembers seeing a strange sight at the intersection back in the 50s...of a weird car with a bug-eyed woman at the wheel. 2 

Derek E. tells another interesting time slip story.  When he was a child, his father was a taxi driver in Glasgow, Scotland. One day in the late 1960s, Derek's father was driving in the north of the city along Maryhill Road near Queen's Cross, one of the older parts of town and once its own separate community outside the city.

"One minute it was now," Derek wrote, "cars, buses, modern clothes, tarmac roads etc. - and the next thing my dad knew he was in some earlier time. It was certainly pre-Victorian given the clothes he described people wearing, horses, rough road, lower buildings, people in rough clothes and bonnets etc. It lasted as long as it took him to be aware of it and then it vanished and he was back in 'now.'"

Derek also reported that in the 1980's, he and his wife were on a driving holiday in the North York Moors in England. They went to a tiny coastal village called Staithes, which had a steep winding and narrowing road down to the harbor, with the entrance to the houses and narrow footway at a higher level of three or four feet.

"We parked at the top of the village, hamlet really, where the tourist buses and cars had to stop and made our way down on foot. What I remember is a brilliantly sunny day with lots of other people around, but as we made our way down, it just suddenly seemed as if no one else were there but my wife and me. An old woman appeared on the footway opposite us. It became cooler and duller. She asked, in what seemed to me an old-fashioned and very polite way, what year it was. Now lots of old people get confused and it could have been that, but what I remember vividly is her black clothes - handmade, rough and with hand-sewn buttons - really big compared with modern ones. Her shoes were very old fashioned with much higher and chunkier heels than you'd see an older person wearing nowadays. In the time it took me to turn to my wife and say, 'Did you see that?' she was gone. The sun was back and so were all the people. My wife had also seen the same old woman and felt the same chill." 3

Derek's experience seems strikingly similar to traditional ghost stories. Many ghost sightings are readily explained as individuals who appear out of their normal location or time; but often the ghost also seems to change the surroundings of the witness, giving the impression of a time slip. What is open to question is whether these are glimpses into another time or does the witness or the ghost actually travel in time? Perhaps it is simply different sides of the same coin.

Martin Jeffrey, co-editor with Louise Jeffrey of the website www.mysterymag.com, speculates that time slips can be recreated or induced using a "trigger factor," which "…occurs when one is interested in his surroundings but is not concentrating on them; a slip occurs at a precise place and moment and the witness is thrust seemingly into another time."

Jeffrey cites the case of Alice Pollock, who at Leeds Castle in Kent "experienced what could be called a 'classic' time slip. Alice was experimenting in Henry VIII's rooms by touching objects in an attempt to experience events from another time. After a period of receiving no impressions whatsoever, the room suddenly changed. It lost its modern, comfortable appearance to become cold and bare. The carpet had disappeared and there were now logs burning on the fire. A tall woman in a white dress was walking up and down the room; her face seemed to be in deep concentration. Not long after, the room returned to its original state.

Later research found that the rooms had been the prison of Queen Joan of Navarre, Henry V's stepmother, who had been accused of witchcraft by her husband. 4

It could be that the witness triggers time slips, whether they blank their mind at a precise moment and the slip occurs, or the witness touches something that holds the memory of a previous time.

"The simplest explanation is probably the psychometric hypothesis," noted Colin Wilson and John Grant in The Directory of Possibilities. "In the mid-nineteenth century, Dr. Joseph Rodes Buchanan of the Covington Medical Institute performed experiments that convinced him that certain of his students could hold letters in their hands and accurately describe the character of the writer. He became convinced that all objects carry their 'history' photographed in them. Buchanan wrote: 'The past is entombed in the present. The discoveries of psychometry will enable us to explore the history of Man as those of geology enable us to explore the history of Earth.' Clearly, psychometry may be seen as a form of time slip."
 

CLASSIC TIME SLIPS

The classic of time slip tales occurred in August 1901, when two Englishwomen on holiday, Annie Moberly, Principal of St. Hugh's College in Oxford and Dr. Eleanor Frances Jourdain, visited Paris. After a short stay in the capital, they went on to Versailles.

After visiting the palace they began searching for the Petit Trianon but became lost. As they wandered the grounds, both women began to feel strange, as if a heavy mood was oppressing their spirits. Two men dressed in "long greyish-green coats with small three-cornered hats" suddenly appeared and directed the women to the Petit Trianon. They strolled up to an isolated cottage where a woman and a 12- or 13-year-old girl were standing at the doorway, both wearing white kerchiefs fastened under their bodices.  The woman was standing at the top of the steps, holding a jug and leaning slightly forwards, while the girl stood beneath her, looking up at her and stretching out her empty hands.

"She might have been just going to take the jug or have just given it up I remember that both seemed to pause for an instant, as in a motion picture," Dr. Jourdain would later write.

The two Oxford ladies went on their way and soon reached a pavilion that stood in the middle of an enclosure. The place had an unusual air about it and the atmosphere was depressing and unpleasant. A man was sitting outside the pavilion, his face repulsively disfigured by smallpox, wearing a coat and a straw hat. He seemed not to notice the two women; at any rate, he paid no attention to them.

The Englishwomen walked on in silence and after a while reached a small country house with shuttered windows and terraces on either side. A lady was sitting on the lawn with her back to the house. She held a large sheet of paper or cardboard in her hand and seemed to be working at or looking at a drawing. She wore a summer dress with a long bodice and a very full, apparently short skirt, which was extremely unusual. She had a pale green fichu or kerchief draped around her shoulders, and a large white hat covered her fair hair.

At the end of the terraces was a second house. As the two women drew near, a door suddenly flew open and slammed shut again. A young man with the demeanor of a servant, but not wearing livery, came out. As the two Englishwomen thought they had trespassed on private property, they followed the man toward the Petit Trianon. Quite unexpectedly, from one moment to the next, they found themselves in the middle of a crowd--apparently a wedding party--all dressed in the fashions of 1901.

On their return to England, Annie Moberly and Eleanor Jourdain discussed their trip and began to wonder about their experiences at the Petit Trianon. The two began to wonder if they had somehow seen the ghost of Marie Antoinette, or rather, if they had somehow telepathically entered into one of the Queen's memories left behind in that location. As if to confirm their suspicion, Moberly came across a picture of Marie Antoinette drawn by the artist Wertmüller. To her astonishment it depicted the same sketching woman she had seen near the Petit Trianon. Even the clothes were the same.

Intrigued by the growing mystery, Jourdain returned to Versailles in January 1902 and discovered that she was unable to retrace their earlier steps. The grounds seemed mysteriously altered. She then learned that on October 5, 1789 Marie Antoinette had been sitting at the Petit Trianon when she first learned that a mob from Paris was marching towards the palace gates. Jourdain and Moberly decided that Marie Antoinette's memory of this terrifying moment must have somehow lingered and persisted through the years, and it was into this memory that they had inadvertently stumbled. 5
 

NATURES TIME MACHINE

What can be concluded then from these anecdotal tales? Did these people actually travel, albeit briefly, into the past to glimpse scenes that once were? Or were they caught up in a form of haunting where, like an old movie, they saw a scene that had somehow been implanted in a location and allowed to "play back" again for those sensitive enough to pick up the lingering impressions?

However, if time slips are a form of haunting, what explanation can be offered to the experience of a Mr. Squirrel, who in 1973 went into a stationer's shop in Great Yarmouth to buy some envelopes. He was served by a woman in Edwardian dress and bought three dozen envelopes for a shilling. He noticed that the building was extremely silent -- there was no traffic noise. On visiting the shop three weeks later, he found it completely changed and modernized; the assistant, an elderly lady, denied that there had been any other assistant in the shop the previous week. Even though the envelopes disintegrated quickly, Mr. Squirrel was able to track down the manufacturers, who said that such envelopes had ceased to be manufactured fifteen years before. 6

How can a haunting produce such physical evidence?

Time slips are "often accompanied by feelings of depression, eeriness and a marked sense of silence, deeper than normally experienced," posits author Andrew MacKenzie in his book Adventures in Time: Encounters With the Past, drawing this conclusion based on the Versailles time slip accounts as well as his own interviews with people who have experienced the phenomenon.  

"It is interesting to note that on August 10, 1901, the day of Annie Moberly and Eleanor Jourdain's experience, electrical storms were recorded over Europe and the atmosphere was heavy with electricity. Could this have led to an alteration in the local temporal field around Versailles?"

Perhaps there is a natural phenomenon that under the right conditions and location can produce briefly a doorway to another time and place. Even though this may sound outrageous, this natural "time machine" could show that modern concepts and perceptions of time need to be seriously reconsidered. It may be that the past and even the future might be closer then thought with current scientific theories. With the right frame of mind and the right natural conditions, the barriers of time and space that have traditionally kept mankind locked into place may finally be broken, allowing the mysteries of the world and the universe to be finally revealed.

ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Tim Swartz is an Emmy-Award winning television producer and the author of such books as: The Lost Journals of Nikola Tesla, Time Travel: A How-To Insiders Guide, and Teleportation: From Star Trek to Tesla. Tim Swartz is also the editor of Conspiracy Journal, a popular e-mail newsletter of conspiracies, UFOs, the paranormal and anything else weird and strange.  

 

http://uforeview.tripod.com/timeslips.html

  • Like 17

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have mentioned before that I have had experiences which clearly show to me that timelines can alter and change the future. It seems to me that there are those who can accomplish this through magnetic acceleration in devices which cause timeline flux. It stands to reason that if some groups can do this it is possible that others may be caught up in it - taken along for the ride as it were and I think these cases may be the result of this...

If you hear a strange warble and things are different than you remember ( as is the case with me) then I highly suggest you may be inadvertently affected by it...

  • Like 13

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks jtfuture. I have to read this again, the subject is my cup of tea.

 

I have spent countless hours thinking about the subject and stopped right away where it says "quote"

 

THE NATURE OF TIME

Much of ancient Greek philosophy was concerned with understanding the concept of eternity, and the subject of time is central to all the world's religions and cultures. Can the flow of time be stopped or slowed? Certainly some mystics thought so. Angelus Silesius, a 17th-century philosopher and poet, thought the flow of time could be suspended by mental powers

 

Quote ends.

 

In the seven days of creation time was not created. Have you ever thought about that?

 

Hope I will have some time to discuss time with you further if you are interested. 

 

amb

 

narnug

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

HI Narnug, thanks - I am always up for discussions about the illusion of time. My favorite quote on the topic is from Douglas Adams: 

 

"Time is an illusion.  Lunch-time, doubly so."

 

cheers, jt

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wish I could get payed for discussing and thinking about this jtfuture :)

 

I don't agree that time is an illusion. Rather that our understanding of it is very poor and built on a misunderstanding.

 

I think of it as interactions of matter. All interactions that we do here on Earth are made able for us to do because of our Sun.

 

Our controlling sequence is our solar system. We adjust everything we do to it.

 

But within that ruling sequence each and every one (plants and animals included) has the power to live fast or slow.

 

Wait to write more till I get a feedback on this from you.

 

amb

 

narnug

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

That's interesting.  The new string theory 'math' says time is an illusion unless you 'pay attention' to it, use it as a constant in equations.  But it sure seems real to me, too.   I am particularly interested in half-life of atoms as being an indicator that time certainly seems real in this dimension and is calculable.

 

As far as being controlled by mental powers, I think that is only part right, but how St. Germaine and Rip Van Winkle managed to stay 'alive' so long.  I still think it involved removing themselves from the observational matrices of all others around them that 'believe' in time, aging, etc, so they could live longer, or reverse the affects of aging.

 

How do you think the sun relates to our perception of time?  Do you think the concept of 'time' is different for us in this solar system than it is for others in other solar systems or when in deep space or outside of a solar body's globe of influence?

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A very interesting question jt...my thoughts are in agreement with Narung...because the Sun has a specific orbit , it takes so long for it to complete its' ( and our) circumambulation around the core of the galaxy. Because of this time/space distance and the passage of it, our entire existence is and therefore our internal clock as it were is attuned to it naturally, such as the case with the Mayan calendar, therefore this affects how we perceive time. We are biocosmologically connected to it. It therefore also makes sense for it to be that way for other species from different galaxies.

Time is clearly not an illusion, but what is, of course, is our perception of it and that it can be altered like any wavefield. It was once described to me like a ever peeling banana that leaves tracers as it goes which can be accessed by reversing the generated field from the Sun. I am not sure If I fully understand what was being said to me there but I thought it was very interesting.

  • Like 8

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Time is only real if we stay in  linear perception.  Once we let go of that concept time does not exist as we believe it, (one moment after another in sequence.)  Had it happen once, lived lifetimes in only 5 minutes during a very deep meditation. 

 

Perception is what holds us in time, it also holds us in belief about being physical and feeling that we are somehow limited.  Get past the belief and we draw in other dimensions which do not operate "in time" as we have been led to believe. It is all happening right here, right now as pure consciousness.

  • Like 8

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't know all these science words or famous science authors. So I can't discuss this on that level.

 

For some time ago I started to gratulate people with another circle around the Sun on their birthday instead of gratulating them for a year that passed.

 

I have met very old people that look very young and I have met very young people that look very old. The weird thing is that those whom are old but look young have always made more of their time spent here then those whom look old. Thinking about this made me understand things that eventually lead me to gratulate people for the circle but not the time.

 

All mammals hearts beat so and so often. The average beats of the heart of all mammals is pretty much the same. 

A mouse is not hard to catch because it moves so fast. It is hard to catch because you have "slower" time then the mouse has. The mouse uses all its beats in just a partial of a circle while you spread yours over many. The mouse sees you coming kind of a day or two before it starts to move.

 

The larger animals get the slower they live. The larger a system is the slower it is. 

 

This is the basics of where I am in my understanding. That time is yours to make but you are bound to some frame. A year is relative in length.

 

 

amb

 

narnug

  • Like 7

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

But narnug, many masters have transcended time and move into cosmic consciousness.  In other words, they transcend the body because they have the deep understanding that the body is illusion (a hologram) whatever way that takes them to the understanding that this world we are in is a game.  Once you figure out the game and are in full integrity, you do not have to follow the imposed rules anymore.  When masters reach this awareness the rules change because you are no longer attached to the body; you are seeing the true essence of being and therefore you are no longer limited to the body and its senses, you can travel throughout the cosmos, beyond time and space. Now that is what we are here to learn, I believe.

  • Like 7

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I wrote that for a while ago lake. I would make miner adjustments today and have it shorter :)

 

Alphaomega, many of us are familiar with the thought you describe. Easiest to name The Matrix. I my self don't mix this though with time. Since we are here there are some "rules".

 

You are made of many smaller systems. Your heart is one, your brain one, legs, arms other organs etc. 

What happens when you for example burn your finger is that the smaller systems that make your finger speed up and go out of sync with the larger system (your body). The healing process is the process it takes to get the time synchronised again.

 

All illnesses can be explained this way. This is what Albert Einstein talked about when he mentioned that we would have to understand time and space as a part of our environment (at last I think so).

 

This way of thinking also explains Earths illnesses. We are burning fossil fule. By doing so we create imbalance with in the "time of Earth". Earths "time" is ruled by the Sun. The fossils we burn come from the past. We are releasing "old energy" and there for making Earths time faster then the time the Sun provides to it. We are making it out of sync.

 

Enough for now.

 

amb

 

narnug

  • Like 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Time=velocity

Time coexists to those whom move without travelling ie being able to fold the space time fabric bringing departure and arrival points onthe same location in the space time continuum

For all else the fastest way between two points is a straight line

Being in many if not all places at once is reserved for the adept

This a physical world governed by laws your mind may wonder but your body acts as an anchor fastened on this world at this time

  • Like 9

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I love all of your thoughts on time and we all understand it it our own way.  We are each a unique essence of the all and we each bring back a beautiful expression of what we have experienced in this belief that we are separate.

 

We are here to transcend time/space because our true essence is not dictated by this lower aeon that we are experiencing.  The spirit does not have a body it is pure consciousness, pure love, not an aeonic copy that is distorted. ( what we came here to experience and overcome)  So it my understanding that we chose to play the game of embodiment in a distorted vision and we come home by seeing beyond the confines of the outer by becoming again the inner.  That frees us from all attachments, thus the Masters and Adepts who have overcome.

 

I think we are all saying the same thing, just in different ways and I totally respect all of you and your understandings, that is why I am on Chani.  :wub:

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

it's 4am as I start this post, I can't  sleep for 3rd night and have been lying in bed doing my head in over this time business, hoping my brain would "tilt", and like an old pin-ball machine, shut down until another 10 cent coin was inserted, not a chance.


 


Much of what has been written in this thread does my head in, I'm quite simple and often need simple diagrams or those ?-map things with the circles or other pictorial descriptions to fully grasp a concept. So I hope you don't mind me throwing my 10 cents worth in.


 


Is time that complicated?


 


For me time is only a measurement of how long an object takes to travel a certain distance, route or cycle, but the more I think about it, it does start to get complicated when you consider  the ancients who may have arrived here from outside our solar system with no reference/control/datum point to begin with.


 


Just say, you're  blind, deaf and a mute, you have no way of measuring anything, even your heartbeat, and even if you could control your heart rate at a perfectly regular rate, at how many beats do you stop and say well, that's so many beats per…what, you don't know what an hour is, let alone a minute or second. So a counting system of cycles needs to be invented.


 


But for those that can see, we all know we can use our daily rotation of our planet to invent "the day" and divide that into segments. It doesn't matter into how many really, someone way back decided that we will have 24 hrs in a day and it was divided by 60 minutes and in turn divided that by 60 seconds. Having a satellite such as the moon allowed whoever, to figure out that it took the big full moon 28 rotations of our planet before it returns full again, and the name "month" was invented. But what came first? The second, minute, hour, day week, month, year.


 


And then by watching where the Sun and Moon rises and sets for long enough before they returned to the same spot from whence you started watching, you would realise that, it took three hundred and sixty five of these new "days" to complete this cycle, simple, NOT.


 


What if you did arrive here and there was no moon, no months, although you could still invent the word "year" from watching sunrises and sunsets long enough. You notice that over the duration of this year, the planet had rotated 360 days. But whilst doing this, you notice that the background stars don't come back to whence they started from. You then decide you should see if there are any more repeating cycles, but how?  You may then want to use a datum, a point you go to every night and sight along a stick, towards say, the big star in the north. After one of these years has passed, you realise that big star didn't return to the position from whence you started watching it, you kept looking night after night after night, you're getting pissed off because no matter how many nights you look along your stick, that fucking star just won't come back to its original location, but you have been ticking these years off, year after year after year until you die. Thankfully, others one had volunteered to watch every night hoping that the big star will return,


 


Finally after thousands of these years and many more thousands of watchers have passed, that bastard of a star returned at it's starting point, the watchers had finally recognised another cycle, 25,920 years. The watchers decide to call this year "a great year". Great because it has taken 9,331,200 rotations of the planet to complete this cycle.


 


With all this cleverness, the watchers decided they needed to divide the great year to a more manageable measurement, but how, what is so regular at small intervals that could be used as a benchmark? A watcher had noticed his heartbeat was more or less beating at the same rate as others when sitting down watching. So, for the next 9,331,200 rotations of the planet, they counted how many heartbeats there were for that period, and found that there were 806,215,680,000  heartbeats. 


 


So, they divided 806,215,680,000 beats into one great year 25,920 and found there were 31,104,000 beats per year, still too big a measure to deal with. They then sought to see how many beats equaled one rotation of the planet,  31,104,000 divided by 360 equaled 86,400 beats per day. This was looking better to the watchers, but they wanted smaller measurements. They looked for and found a combination of numbers that could divide the day into segments of beats. They found that by dividing 86,400 beats by the number 24, they ended up with 3,600 beats, similar to the number of planet rotations, only with an extra zero, but this number could be also be divided equally again by the number 60 and that equalled again, sixty beats. The watchers saw this and thought that it was good. They now needed names for their measurements of heartbeats. For the smallest 60 beat measurement, they chose the name Microbeats, the larger 60 beats became known as the Minibeats, 60 Minibeats were named Bigibeats  and 24 bigibeats divided into a day, and the watchers were happy.


 


And that's all you need to know about time,  simple. :wink:


  • Like 13

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Time is more accurately measured using crystaline atomic structure like quartz or ruby

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Time is more accurately measured using crystaline atomic structure like quartz or ruby

so that statement led me to this:  The crystal system is a method used to explain the atomic arrangement of the chemical components of mineralsicon1.png. There are six classifications: isometric, tetragonal, hexagonal, monoclinic, triclinic and orthorhombic. Rubies develop in a hexagonal crystal system and have four crystallographic axes. Three axes occur in one plane. They are all the same length and intersect at 120 degrees, says Dr. Ward Aber. The fourth axis is perpendicular to the plane of the other three and a different length. In other words, hexagonal crystals grow in the shape of pyramids or hexagonal prisms. Rubies form in the shape of dipyramids.

Read more : http://www.ehow.com/info_8726412_crystal-system-ruby.html

 

and now I'm left with more questions....can you expand on this please T?  I don't want to say anything more in case I'm processing this incorrect.

 

Fascinating thoughts Botanic.  Sorry for you that your brain runs like that - but glad for us that it does :wink:

 

thanks in advance....S/G

 

W2K

  • Like 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Don't complicate things. 

 

You are just talking about the platonic solids now. They don't have anything to do with time. They preserve/register interactions/time that passes. They are in the shape they are because of the "screen" we are "projected" on. It only allows certain kind of patterns.

 

Now I am going to go to the limit with you.

 

I found out the light thing. Guess many of you think I am just babbling and that is ok. But note that this took a considerable large part of my life :)

 

Only movement/interaction can allow another movement/interaction. That is what the sun does for us. It generates huge amounts of movement/interactions that allow everything here on Earth to move/interact. MOVEMENT/INTERACTION CREATES/EMMITS WHAT WE EXPERIENCE AS LIGHT. Light is life.

 

We also get light from far away stars. Their tiny amounts of energy/movement/interaction that reaches us connects them to us and vice versa.

 

The same system that allows only the platonic solids pattern is behind this. 

 

Now I went a side road away from the matter discussed and I appologize, this is just a glimpse at how I came to my understanding about time (which is mine and not to be forced upon anyone).

 

amb

 

narnug

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What a tasty discussion, and there is some really great input from all -- my thoughts fall in line with both A-O and JT .....

Time is our delusion while here as illusions in this fractal hologram, its how we make sense of this experience/ experiment as spirit made flesh -- take a few moments to read this --

 

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_consciousuniverse472.htm

 

 

and this --

 

 

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_holouniverse17.htm

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

W2K I only made a factual statement what each gains from that is up to the individual

--------------

There is no complication just relative expansion of explanation. Platonic solids are the form depiction by which universal mathematical principals function

Light is life and is visible due to its interaction with other forms yes. Btw that is why the sun is not visible in space as the vacuum does not provide a palette for which light can imprint on

Interaction suggests vibration and vibration comes from misfitting forms. There is however the final Platonic solid the dodecahedron which in its crystaline form at a fundamental tri molecular state is in absolute harmonic equilibrium and thus completely static. This constitutes the 96% of the cosmos or PAN that we know exists but cannot detect for reasons that you explained

In this state time is irrelevant

More later

  • Like 9

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

×