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STRANGE SIGHTING - POSSIBLE CONNECTION TO SECRET UNDERGROUND RAIL SYSTEM

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This is my first thread here on Chani and I hope it goes well.  ;) So, here goes....

Like many of you, I have heard for a number of years about the vast Top Secret Underground bases, tunnels and rail system here in the U.S.  With locations/entrances rumored to be Dulce, Colorado (the new Denver airport to be specific), among many other military bases, government buildings, etc.

This vast system and it's ongoing growth have been the source of many unexplained phenomenon. The most well known being the 'sound' that people have reported hearing (like a never ending sound of thunder in the distance) from Texas to Canada and Florida to California. Many have posted recordings (vid and audio) to numerous sites such as ATS and others and all just as baffled as to what the noise may be. Many (and this is the popular thought on the matter) attribute the noise to VERY large boring machines that continue to chew their way across the US to grow the underground network.

Now, since neither you nor I can prove any of this (unless someone here has taken a ride in 'the network' recently that can post some pics/vid that is  ;) ) any theory regarding 'the network' is up for debate. Which brings me to my reason for posting this thread.... 8)

First, here's a pic I found on the net (not confirming it's authenticity by any means) that shows you a general idea of what I'm talking about:

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Now - I'm located (generally) in Oklahoma City. Note on the above map that supposedly there are two 'bases' in Oklahoma tied to this 'network', 1 in OKC and 1 in the Tulsa area. At this time it should be noted and COMPLETELY understood that Oklahoma does NOT have any manner of Subway system, (at least that is public knowledge anyway  ;) ) This is important to note as it is the very reason I'm posting....

Recently - we all heard, felt or watched the widely reported news about the Virgina quake and roughly 12hrs earlier a similar quake in Colorado. I won't go into all the conspiracies around these quakes as I'm quite sure that most have already heard about / read about the 'nuking' of the two underground bases at these two locations, hence the resulting quakes at each site. For those that haven't heard this ... Google is your best friend.  ;D

After hearing about the nuking of the two underground bases, I began the usual painstaking net trek to cobble together pieces of info, details, etc. All very interesting if true and if true, things in this country are going to quickly be changing....

Now we come to the center of the shrubbery maze....I left yesterday morning to get my hair cut and breakfast for the wife....BEAUTIFUL Saturday morning, 9am-ish, sunny, 74 Degrees, not a cloud in the sky....life was good and so was the song on the radio. Now, I live in a small town in the suburbs of OKC...quiet town at that. Now, having lived in OKC most of my 40 yrs I (as have many) seen MANY MANY MANY truck convoys with 'Wide Load' signs, and the preceding/proceeding escort trucks tooling up and down I-40/I-35....even army vehicles being transported the same way, no big deal. However, I've NEVER in 40 yrs seen one with a POLICE ESCORT.

So, there I am, driving down 'little street' America and I come to a 4 way intersection. I stop and wait for the light, jamming to 80's rock, windows down, breakfast at my side not a care in the world...when I hear a siren in the distance....again, not uncommon. Being the usual careful driver I begin looking around to see where it's coming from so I can determine what actions I need to take to get outta the way if needed, (former EMT, it's a habbit)....When I look left, in the distance I see a motorcycle cop seriously hauling ass...so I think, 'Doh, he's after someone!'...that's when he comes to the middle of the intersection and stops...

So, now I'm thinking 'Ok, a funeral procession' and turn down the radio in respect....that's when I see it and I'm pretty shocked....Coming into the intersection, (pretty well 'hauling ass' I might add), is a huge flat bed semi truck, with a SUBWAY PASSENGER CAR on it that looks to have been burned from tip to tail, nearly perfect (except for the missing windows and paint), but looking as if it had been burned inside/out to the bare metal and the metal 'oxidized' to give it that almost pristine rust color. No damage, dents, bent/broken metal. Right behind him ANOTHER motor cycle cop w/full lights/sirens...and on they went to the next light and so on until they disappeared from view.

Here is a pic of the type of car I saw, (I don't have a pic of one on the truck as I didn't have my cell or a camera with me at the time):

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Now, take the car in the above pic, remove all the glass windows, any rubber, plastic, paint, etc and paint that sucker a rust brown and that's EXACTLY what I saw on the back of the truck.

Now while most of you may be going 'so what, big deal' - here's what struck me as strange:

1. There are no Subways in Oklahoma

2. Why are they traveling 'back roads' and not up on the main interstate? (I-40 is less than 5 miles from where this sitting occurred and goes from the direction they came from and to the direction they were headed and no stop lights/intersections, etc. Just a straight shot to 'wherever')

3. Why the police escort? As I mentioned before, in 40yrs I can't remember any 'Wide Load/Oversize Load' convoy that had a police escort.

4. Why we're they in such a hurry?

Now, I'll be the first to admit, you take this same story and put it in a city WITH a subway, New York, etc and this is all probably an everyday, who gives a crap, occurrence. So, let's put it in context, If I were to put say a John Deer Tractor pulling a Hay Bail-er driving down Madison Ave, in NYC who here would go 'WTF!?'...Yet where I live this is a common everyday site. Get the idea?

So, after seeing this it kept bothering me, I kept thinking this is the weirdest thing I've seen in a looong time. Until today I began putting the pieces together...I stumbled across the 'Underground base Nuke'd' stuff and saw the map I posted at the beginning of this thread. That's when my jaw dropped...and I couldn't wonder but if this may have been part of that 'event' and was pulled from the 'tunnel' here in OKC somewhere and headed to Tinker AFB here in OKC, (that's the direction the convoy was headed btw) for an investigation or whatever...

Just really weird to me and curious what anyone thinks on the matter....

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Great first post RecentlyAwakened ..... great heads up and worth quietly watching out for any returning movement... keep that mobile phone camera handy. ;)

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Great article and certainly thought provoking. Thank you for bringing this to our forum. This is the sort of item I look for to further confirm other 'stories' eg underground nukes.

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That and a simple subway fire couldn't really burn all of it like that since most of the systems are pretty good when dealing with fires. They would shut the electricity off and then the crews on standby would rush in and put it out. Also, the operators and the train stations have fire extinguishers and some stations have sprinklers that are controlled and used when the electricity is off. Look up pictures of cars in a nuclear blast and compare them, if it's just plain rust.. then I dunno. It could of just been someone who bought it and let it sit in a junk yard and it's getting taken to a metal company for scrapping.

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The powlees escorts are the biggest clue to it being of importance, and also the back roads being used.

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Posted by Recently Awakened --

So, after seeing this [burnt-up tram car] it kept bothering me, I kept thinking this is the weirdest thing I've seen in a looong time. Until today I began putting the pieces together...I stumbled across the 'Underground base Nuke'd' stuff and saw the map I posted at the beginning of this thread. That's when my jaw dropped...and I couldn't wonder but if this may have been part of that 'event' and was pulled from the 'tunnel' here in OKC somewhere and headed to Tinker AFB here in OKC, (that's the direction the convoy was headed btw) for an investigation or whatever...

Just really weird to me and curious what anyone thinks on the matter....

R.A. -- good job! The puzzle pieces you have there, are quite a teaser.  :o

Your story fits in with another one I just came across on GLP, about an underground base in Virginia.

A Swiss Security Guard [brought here 4 yrs ago from Rome] leaked some info about a DUMB base in Virginia, [sounded like Mount Weather] near the Quantico Marine base.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread61324/pg1

In connecting the dots to "damage" that could have been incurred there, the guard stated that hundreds of semi-trucks loaded down with materials were coming into the Top-secret entrance to the underground facility. The materials they were bringing in? Building materials, paint, a lot of that kind of thing. Later, it occurred to me, that building and repair could be taking care of serious problems underground... [damaged by "earthquakes?" aka Bombs?] He said that the facility is operating on "Code 1" for "Imminent emergency Status." and would be sealed up, by September 28th, with many elite VIP's coming in with required credentials, by that date. He is ordered to shoot anyone who tries to get in without credentials.

Just a wild guess: Maybe "Repair crew" materials come in through Virginia? And "Scrap / damaged materials" come out onto the back roads of Oklahoma? That is, if their underground shuttles and tram cars still have rails. They have some high-speed cross-country transit down there, (at least they used to.)

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Great article and certainly thought provoking. Thank you for bringing this to our forum. This is the sort of item I look for to further confirm other 'stories' eg underground nukes.

Thanks Panther - I agree it STILL has me scratching my head. Definitely keeping my eyes open around here for more 'strange' things and will post what I find for sure.

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That and a simple subway fire couldn't really burn all of it like that since most of the systems are pretty good when dealing with fires. They would shut the electricity off and then the crews on standby would rush in and put it out. Also, the operators and the train stations have fire extinguishers and some stations have sprinklers that are controlled and used when the electricity is off. Look up pictures of cars in a nuclear blast and compare them, if it's just plain rust.. then I dunno. It could of just been someone who bought it and let it sit in a junk yard and it's getting taken to a metal company for scrapping.

Thanks for the post! And I agree, I did think about that, but then why the police escort and why in such a hurry they were 'escorted' thru every light / intersection they came to? Not your typical 'We're headed to the scrap yard' behavior IMO. Just sayin.

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Posted by Recently Awakened --

So, after seeing this [burnt-up tram car] it kept bothering me, I kept thinking this is the weirdest thing I've seen in a looong time. Until today I began putting the pieces together...I stumbled across the 'Underground base Nuke'd' stuff and saw the map I posted at the beginning of this thread. That's when my jaw dropped...and I couldn't wonder but if this may have been part of that 'event' and was pulled from the 'tunnel' here in OKC somewhere and headed to Tinker AFB here in OKC, (that's the direction the convoy was headed btw) for an investigation or whatever...

Just really weird to me and curious what anyone thinks on the matter....

R.A. -- good job! The puzzle pieces you have there, are quite a teaser.  :o

Your story fits in with another one I just came across on GLP, about an underground base in Virginia.

A Swiss Security Guard [brought here 4 yrs ago from Rome] leaked some info about a DUMB base in Virginia, [sounded like Mount Weather] near the Quantico Marine base.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread61324/pg1

In connecting the dots to "damage" that could have been incurred there, the guard stated that hundreds of semi-trucks loaded down with materials were coming into the Top-secret entrance to the underground facility. The materials they were bringing in? Building materials, paint, a lot of that kind of thing. Later, it occurred to me, that building and repair could be taking care of serious problems underground... [damaged by "earthquakes?" aka Bombs?] He said that the facility is operating on "Code 1" for "Imminent emergency Status." and would be sealed up, by September 28th, with many elite VIP's coming in with required credentials, by that date. He is ordered to shoot anyone who tries to get in without credentials.

Just a wild guess: Maybe "Repair crew" materials come in through Virginia? And "Scrap / damaged materials" come out onto the back roads of Oklahoma? That is, if their underground shuttles and tram cars still have rails. They have some high-speed cross-country transit down there, (at least they used to.)

:) NOW we're getting somewhere! THIS is EXACTLY the stuff I hoped someone would bring to the table, more pieces of the puzzle that would help prove/disprove the whole underground nuke the bases thing.....I think all here are intelligent enough to agree that in today's society where everyone notices things that you can't set off 2 Nukes and blow up secret underground bases and it go unnoticed when you try to either clean it up, cart off the debris or anything of that nature....someone WILL notice something out of the ordinary and if enough of us tell what we're seeing we should be able to reassemble the puzzle and see what's really going on!

Great Post Iflyhigh!! Thanks for your contribution!!

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I was just wondering if the radiation from the supposed nuke jobs on these underground bases would show up on the surface? I'm sure that it would not be as strong as in the blast area, but wouldn't something leak to the surface? Perhaps some members who live in those areas could check around with geiger counters and see what registers...anyway, just my two cents worth for this interesting thread!

:)

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I was just wondering if the radiation from the supposed nuke jobs on these underground bases would show up on the surface? I'm sure that it would not be as strong as in the blast area, but wouldn't something leak to the surface? Perhaps some members who live in those areas could check around with geiger counters and see what registers...anyway, just my two cents worth for this interesting thread!

:)

Excellent Question - I thought about this myself...here's what I think....

First it really depends on the SIZE (ie kiloton) of the Nuke's used. I don't think you can 'assume' Hiroshima size here. Why? Simple, if it were a LARGE nuke the resulting blast would create a huge crater after the blast, much like you see in the Mojave Desert after all the underground nuke testing in the 50's. They can't do that, especially if this is all a 'secret war' and 'secret underground bases' right beneath an unsuspecting populace. If they did, how would they explain the massive sinkhole/craters created after the blast(s)??

That said, IMO I think they used very minimal yield devices, and very possibly either just above or at 'dirty bomb' levels. I think what you want in that situation is a massive blast that incinerates anything in the area and causes a collapse of the surrounding building material w/out leaving tell tale traces on the surface.

Again, all speculation on my part, but that's my opinion.....and if I'm right, most if not all the radiation would have been contained underground and not detectable on the surface. Or only small detectable amounts anyway...

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The only places that would show any signs of radioactivity would be the top of ventilation shafts and these are well hidden to look like all sorts of different buildings.

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Hello all,

This is my first post here.

I live less than 15 miles from the epicenter of the Virginia quake that occurred on Aug. 23 of this year.  It took a lot of us by surprise because you dont think about earthquakes here, although we are considered to be in the Virginia seismic zone in the area in which I live.

A lot of folks I know that are Calif. transplants here, said that it scared the crap out of them, because it didnt feel like any quakes they had experienced on a normal basis in Calif.

In April of this year, my husband and I heard a noise which sounded like continuous thunder.  We went outside to listen, and we were confused as to what the sound could be.  It almost sounded like a jet sitting on the ground burning off fuel (ive lived on Air Force Bases, so the sound is a familiar one).  The sound continued for about 10 minutes, then stopped, and then we heard a loud tone.

I was talking to a gentleman I know, and he said it sounded like it could of been a "tunneling machine".  Now that didnt sound too farfetched to me considering that there are military bases all over the place here, plus we are only a 3 hrs drive from Wash.DC..and about 2hrs drive from Mount weather, but no bases close enough that we would hear jets burning off fuel.

So, Im sitting on the fence with all this, but I think it's a possibility that the "big movement" we felt on the 23rd was indeed tunnels being bombed

Just my 2 cent worth!  Great forum by the way.  ;D

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It makes me wonder why they wouldn't bother covering the railway/subway car with tarpaulin if it was so secret. Maybe they were really in a hurry or there was too much debris and too little tarp. If only there was a way to check if someone ordered a lot of covering tarp/material at special locations  :P

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I was just wondering if the radiation from the supposed nuke jobs on these underground bases would show up on the surface? I'm sure that it would not be as strong as in the blast area, but wouldn't something leak to the surface? Perhaps some members who live in those areas could check around with geiger counters and see what registers...anyway, just my two cents worth for this interesting thread!

:)

Excellent Question - I thought about this myself...here's what I think....

First it really depends on the SIZE (ie kiloton) of the Nuke's used. I don't think you can 'assume' Hiroshima size here. Why? Simple, if it were a LARGE nuke the resulting blast would create a huge crater after the blast, much like you see in the Mojave Desert after all the underground nuke testing in the 50's. They can't do that, especially if this is all a 'secret war' and 'secret underground bases' right beneath an unsuspecting populace. If they did, how would they explain the massive sinkhole/craters created after the blast(s)??

That said, IMO I think they used very minimal yield devices, and very possibly either just above or at 'dirty bomb' levels. I think what you want in that situation is a massive blast that incinerates anything in the area and causes a collapse of the surrounding building material w/out leaving tell tale traces on the surface.

Again, all speculation on my part, but that's my opinion.....and if I'm right, most if not all the radiation would have been contained underground and not detectable on the surface. Or only small detectable amounts anyway...

Hi R'A' - yes I was thinking low yield too. Its like the analogy of setting a fire cracker off in the palm of your hand. Open handed, you just gget a sore hand. Make a fist, and you're less two finger....

There would be no need to use a hi range weapon as the tunnel channels all the energy in a confined space. It channels the force/damage. This rail car may have been trying to out run the blast, and mad it to the surface 'some where'. No time to cover it up, just get it away from the area. Who knows who or what was on board, or what the bases task was?

Really intruiging story. Love it.

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The only places that would show any signs of radioactivity would be the top of ventilation shafts and these are well hidden to look like all sorts of different buildings.

My thinking as well BW!

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Hello all,

This is my first post here.

I live less than 15 miles from the epicenter of the Virginia quake that occurred on Aug. 23 of this year.   It took a lot of us by surprise because you dont think about earthquakes here, although we are considered to be in the Virginia seismic zone in the area in which I live.

A lot of folks I know that are Calif. transplants here, said that it scared the crap out of them, because it didnt feel like any quakes they had experienced on a normal basis in Calif.

In April of this year, my husband and I heard a noise which sounded like continuous thunder.  We went outside to listen, and we were confused as to what the sound could be.  It almost sounded like a jet sitting on the ground burning off fuel (ive lived on Air Force Bases, so the sound is a familiar one).  The sound continued for about 10 minutes, then stopped, and then we heard a loud tone.

I was talking to a gentleman I know, and he said it sounded like it could of been a "tunneling machine".  Now that didnt sound too farfetched to me considering that there are military bases all over the place here, plus we are only a 3 hrs drive from Wash.DC..and about 2hrs drive from Mount weather, but no bases close enough that we would hear jets burning off fuel.

So, Im sitting on the fence with all this, but I think it's a possibility that the "big movement" we felt on the 23rd was indeed tunnels being bombed

Just my 2 cent worth!  Great forum by the way.   ;D

Thank you for your post Virginia! And welcome!! It's the pieces of the puzzle like you just provided that begin to paint the larger picture here. I love the confirmation from Cali transplants stating it was not a normal quake, if anyone would know they would!!

Great addition to the thread! Love it!

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It makes me wonder why they wouldn't bother covering the railway/subway car with tarpaulin if it was so secret. Maybe they were really in a hurry or there was too much debris and too little tarp. If only there was a way to check if someone ordered a lot of covering tarp/material at special locations  :P

I wondered that to, but to be honest. How many people would question this? Think it strange, yes. But here in rural OK, no one would think 'secret underground base rail car OMG!'...LOL! I just happen to be amongst the 'non-sheeple', Desert Storm Vet and former EMT so I tend to notice things that are out of place and like putting the pieces together.

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I was just wondering if the radiation from the supposed nuke jobs on these underground bases would show up on the surface? I'm sure that it would not be as strong as in the blast area, but wouldn't something leak to the surface? Perhaps some members who live in those areas could check around with geiger counters and see what registers...anyway, just my two cents worth for this interesting thread!

:)

Excellent Question - I thought about this myself...here's what I think....

First it really depends on the SIZE (ie kiloton) of the Nuke's used. I don't think you can 'assume' Hiroshima size here. Why? Simple, if it were a LARGE nuke the resulting blast would create a huge crater after the blast, much like you see in the Mojave Desert after all the underground nuke testing in the 50's. They can't do that, especially if this is all a 'secret war' and 'secret underground bases' right beneath an unsuspecting populace. If they did, how would they explain the massive sinkhole/craters created after the blast(s)??

That said, IMO I think they used very minimal yield devices, and very possibly either just above or at 'dirty bomb' levels. I think what you want in that situation is a massive blast that incinerates anything in the area and causes a collapse of the surrounding building material w/out leaving tell tale traces on the surface.

Again, all speculation on my part, but that's my opinion.....and if I'm right, most if not all the radiation would have been contained underground and not detectable on the surface. Or only small detectable amounts anyway...

Hi R'A' - yes I was thinking low yield too. Its like the analogy of setting a fire cracker off in the palm of your hand. Open handed, you just gget a sore hand. Make a fist, and you're less two finger....

There would be no need to use a hi range weapon as the tunnel channels all the energy in a confined space. It channels the force/damage. This rail car may have been trying to out run the blast, and mad it to the surface 'some where'. No time to cover it up, just get it away from the area. Who knows who or what was on board, or what the bases task was?

Really intruiging story. Love it.

Thanks BHD! You and I are definitely on the same page here!

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To All that have posted to this thread:

I want to thank each and everyone for your great contributions to this thread and your interest in sharing your thoughts on the matter. It's adult, intelligent conversation on topics like this that make positive I made the right decision to move here from ATS.

Thank you all again and I'm proud to be part of the Chani Project Team!

~RecentlyAwaken

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