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In the recent couple months, we have had several serious train derailments.  We have also had two airplanes have problems in flight, same airplane model, opposite sides of the world. One in San Francisco, one in Athens, Greece. We had several cruise ships have problems a couple months ago, and need to be towed to shore. We have had two train derailments in 24 hours also. Again, opposite sides of the world, one in Canada, one in Russia. Perhaps if we put these on one thread, we will be able to see a pattern emerge.  Whether it's earth expanding, or mechanical, or bezerk related.  Most of these incidents are causing death and destruction, and for that, I will add condolences for those who have died as a result of any of them. Let's look for that pattern, or for some kind of explanation for the difficulties.  I will start off with headlines/links to the serious transportation problems happening just in the last couple of days.  Please anyone, feel free to add news of transportation difficulties to this thread, we might see something we wouldn't see otherwise.

July 5, 2013
Kenya Airways flight makes emergency landing in Greece
He said the aircraft, a Boeing 777 200ER, was diverted to Athens at 1am Kenyan time because there was a fire warning indication in one of the cargo holds.


July 6, 2013
Boeing 777 crashes while landing at San Francisco airport; 2 dead; scores injured
"The service identified the model as a Boeing 777-200, which has a wingspan of almost 200 feet and can carry as many as 440 people. The manufacturing company Pratt & Whitney said the plane was powered by its PW4000 engines."


Then we have had two serious train derailments in the last day.
July 6, 2013
Quebec train derailment sparks explosion, fire
"A train carrying crude oil through Lac-Mégantic in Quebec's Eastern Townships derailed overnight, sparking a major fire that has led to the evacuation of 1,000 people from their homes."

July 7, 2013
More than 80 injured as passenger train derails in southern Russia

"At least 80 people have been injured with 15 in hospital after a passenger train derailed in southern Russia. It’s thought the driver applied the emergency brake after seeing that track deformed due to heat, a police source said.


My question, does crude oil explode?  Do railroad tracks deform due to heat? How does a train take off from a parked state, by itself? Does the Boeing 777 200 ER have problems no one knows about??

Chat buddies one and all have had many interesting conversations about these and other incidences...in fact last night one convo went on for hours about the train derailment in Quebec, how it might have  happened, which end of town the train had to have come from to have crashed where and how it did.  Thanks to all who participate..

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Thank you Breezy for the post.

I've been following 3 min news and catastrophes/accidents all around the world for a while, and let me tell you that it sounds extremely fishy. Its as if they were all done on purpose, to create chaos. To slowly sink down humanity. It goes for nuclear too. Toxic wastes everywhere.

To add to the derail in Russia, aren't rail tracks made of iron? I think that heat itself cannot be enough to deform rails. A smith must hammer the iron to get the shape needed.

Also, didn't Chani told us about planes crashing?

My opinion,


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Israel grounds warplanes after F16 crashes at sea

July 7, 2013

"JERUSALEM (Reuters) - An Israeli F16 warplane crashed at sea on Sunday due to an engine malfunction and Israel subsequently grounded all its F15 and F16 combat aircraft pending a review of the incident, a military spokesman said."


Tetra I will have to go back and look at the Chani material about plane crashes.  It was bezerk as far as I recall, and it was going to be because of the oil becoming contaminated w/the organism that would cause planes (multiple) to fall from the sky.


Tetra the entity made mention of a couple plane crashes


helo me post probabilitys ok

me cee crash plane on deck of us war ship 55 dimise

me cee us bomer crash sea

me cee many dolfin and whale go suicide (2012/2013)

me cee 250 plus more demise acident and crash of plane europe people

From Part 2 that Neocharm posted. Tx Kandescent

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wonder if its all part of the current cycle?

"..Tchijevsky found that periods of mass movement rise and fall in regular phases even in nations that had no contact with each other. This suggested to him that some external factor was causing the cycles, and he found it in the forces controlling the 11.2-year sunspot cycle. The UHP usually repeats itself 9 times in each century, synchronistically with the 11.2-year sunspot cycle:

"We must assume that there exists a powerful factor outside our globe which governs the development of events in human societies and synchronizes them with the sun’s activity; and thus we must also assume that the electrical energy of the sun is the superterrestrial factor which influences the historical process." Tchijevsky held that the ionization of Earth’s atmosphere, caused by solar activity, stimulates mankind physiologically and psychologically:

"Therefore, solar disturbances tend to aggravate social crises, if such crises happen to exist at the time of greater solar activity."

there's some interesting discussion here on Krondratieff, Dewey and others who devoted their lives to the study of various cycles: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/profecias/esp_profecia01i1.htm

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Once again in chat we have been discussing this train derailment in Quebec. kandescent brought up one very interesting point. That train was going from North  Dakota to St.Johns, New Brunswich, to a refinery there.  OK..that indicates, that the oil it carried came from the shale/fracking operations going wild in N.Dakota right now. 

Now it would be something, would it not, IF after all the trouble they've had with the states allowing the Keystone XL Pipeline to be built, that this was a way to convince people it's necessary.

A train just does not take off w/o an engineer, nor do the cars, "somehow" become detached from those Engines, and run off down the track by themselves. Not only that.  Most trains have engines in the front and the extra ones in the back. This train had 5 engines. So it would seem to me that possibly 3 in front and 2 in the back for pushing. I will post a picture, thanks to kandescent.  Go ahead and take a look, at the devastation, it makes no sense whatsoever. The tanker cars are in a pile close to the RR tracks, in fact on top of them, so how did the street in the very front of the picture end up that devastated.

I figure that train must have been at least(73 tanker cars x 80 ft in length)=5840 which is 560 feet longer than one mile, and that is just the tankers. Then there were 5 engines., so probably add another 300 feet.  Someone mentioned that they saw the train coming and it was moving pretty fast. Well, hmm, it seems it was parked 7+miles away in Nantes, that would explain it having the momentum to do this damage, but still not an explanation of how the cars got away from the engines, in the first place, or how the train got away from them?

The plot thickens..LOL


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It's a far fetched idea, but....

....Was something else carried in the train that someone wanted to burn off/kill off/wipe out of existence...?

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NTSB: Alaska Plane Crash


July 7, 2013

"An air taxi crashed Sunday at a small Alaska airport, killing all 10 people on board and leaving the aircraft fully engulfed in flames before firefighters could get to it, authorities said.

The de Havilland DHC3 Otter air taxi crashed just after 11 a.m. at the airport in Soldotna, a community about 75 miles southwest of Anchorage and located on the Kenai Peninsula."


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It's a far fetched idea, but....

....Was something else carried in the train that someone wanted to burn off/kill off/wipe out of existence...?

Berserk entity?

Yup, Tetra, I was thinking of a similar line, but with possibly new-synthea like organism which human created...

Part oil, part synthetic biological created materials that was built intending to seep into OG and terminate OG's genetic codes somehow...but possibly gone haywire and couldn't control it or didn't work to do the job but got too dangerous for humanity to handle...

X-File-y, but then again, why not...

If there are people trying to stop the terraform by kicking Earth back into the depth of ice age (BTW WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT ANYWAY), then I'm sure there are other aspects being looked into, trying to fight back the changes.

I'm sure the idea of killing off the OG by doing what we can do would lead to the idea I've jotted down---kill off the OGs somehow.

At the same time, there are factions wanting to support what OGs are doing...ummmm.

Just looking into the situation with a slant eye...lol ;)

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Update July 8

5 dead, 40 still missing after oil train explodes near US-Canadian border — Death toll could surge

Burning crude went in sewers and rose up through manholes, setting buildings on fire — City’s downtown core “almost completely destroyed”


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Helicopter crashed into Hudson River

June 30, 2013-New York City


Helicopter crash reported in Tibble Fork Canyon

July 8, 2013-Utah


Mississippi River reopened to traffic after tugboat sinks

July 8, 2013

"The Coast Guard said it was still trying to determine why the tug capsized and sank Saturday, the newspaper said. Two people aboard the tug were rescued"

Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2013/07/08/Mississippi-River-reopened-to-traffic-after-tugboat-sinks/UPI-41881373257835/#ixzz2YTMobawl

So then because the tug sank, they rerouted Carnival Cruise ships to Mobile, then had to bus people back to New Orleans, whereupon, for some reason one bus w/70 people broke down

Cruise Ship Diverted due to Tug Boat Accident in New Orleans

July 8, 2013

"And following Carnival Conquest's diversion to Mobile, Alabama, a local news station in Mobile has reported that one of the buses Carnival chartered to take passengers back to New Orleans from Mobile broke down while in transit with 70 of the ship's passengers onboard. A spokesperson for Carnival said the bus broke down approximately one mile from the terminal in Mobile and two spare buses were dispatched immediately."


ok I'm going to start thinking bezerk here shortly..perhaps mother earth is fighting back.??

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I'm sure I mentioned that the oil came from the fracking fields of oil in N.Dakota. I do believe that also mentioned, was the possibility that it had something to do with the Keystone XL Pipeline that they want built.  Guess what..

There was also a fire on that train, about an hour before it took off on it's own.

Lac-Megantic train derailment is a stake in oil pipeline debate

July 8, 2013

By Matthew Coutts


"Terrifying, harrowing and hard to comprehend, the Lac-Megantic train derailment has brought to the front a simmering debate over whether rail cars are the best way to transport volatile cargo – like the crude oil at the centre of Canada's latest tragedy."


The use of railways in transporting oil across Canada, and the U.S., has been in the periphery of the spotlight these days due to the ongoing debate over cross-country pipelines. Both the Keystone XL pipeline, from Alberta's tar sands south to Texas, and a similar plan to build a cross-Canada pipeline to New Brunswick, are opposed by environmental groups who fear ecological disaster.    <<so there it is.


tx. Reddwolf

http://www.cbc.ca/news/interactives/timeline-lac-megantic/  <<tx. kandescent

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This begins to look more and more like something other than an accident.

Pipeline vs. Rail: Canada Oil Train Crash

July 9, 2013

Read the last paragraph.

"This rail disaster at Lac-Megantic most likely will not slow down the rail development, but it is also time for the U.S. government to put idealism, politics and lobbying money aside and let the pipeline do what they do.  It is bad business if we have to import foreign oil because the country lacks more cost-competitive infrastructure to transport domestic oil production."


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High winds may have caused train derailment in Ohio

July 10, 2013

"WILLIAMS COUNTY, Ohio (WANE)  A train derailed during Wednesday's afternoon storms in Williams County, Ohio.

A Norfolk Southern train derailed about three miles west of Melbern. The derailment appears to have been caused by high winds, according to the William's County Emergency Manager.


Multiple trees and power lines were reported to be down and some home damaged. A hazmat team was sent to the scene of the derailment as a precaution; no hazardous materials were found."


Tx Reddwolf

Deaths of two families in plane crash shock South Carolina town

Tom Patterson July 10, 2013


Plane crash kills 9 people from two different South Carolina families

The McManus and Antonakos families of Greenville included five children

FAA: The plane "struck the runway and burned" on takeoff Sunday southwest of Anchorage

The plane's pilot also died in the crash, officials said


Tx Reddwolf

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Deadly French train crash at Bretigny-sur-Orge

At least eight people are reported dead in a train crash at Bretigny-sur-Orge, south of the French capital Paris.

The intercity train had just left Paris and was heading towards Limoges when it derailed, crashing into a station platform at about 16:00 GMT.

Passengers were said to be trapped inside the train and a local official said there were "many casualties".



Six people either crushed to death or electrocuted in French rail crash horror as train smashes into platform south of Paris

Six people have been killed and nine seriously injured after a packed passenger train derailed south of Paris this evening.

The high speed intercity train was travelling from the French capital to the city of Limoges when it derailed onto its side in a train station in the suburb of Bretigny-sur-Orge at about 3.15pm GMT.

The accident has left six people dead, with the victims being crushed to death or electrocuted.

Rescue workers desperately battled to free people still trapped inside the train, which was carrying 385 passengers - including some Britons.


Paris Train Crash | Paris Train Crash: Casualties Reported In French Capital

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Heathrow reopens after Boeing Dreamliner 787 fire

July 11, 2013


An area in front of the tail area on the fuselage appeared to be scorched

Flights have resumed at London's Heathrow Airport after a fire on a parked Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 787 Dreamliner jet

"All runways were closed for nearly 90 minutes after the fire at 16:30 BST. No passengers were aboard the plane at the time, a Heathrow spokesman said.

Fifty Dreamliners worldwide were grounded in January after malfunctions with the plane's lithium-ion batteries.

Boeing modified the jets with new batteries and flights resumed in April.

The Air Accidents Investigation Branch of the Department for Transport has despatched a team to the scene.

The Ethiopian Airlines Dreamliner in the Heathrow incident - named the Queen of Sheba - flew from Addis Ababa to Nairobi on the first commercial flight since the grounding.

Then a second one, same day

Boeing stock tumbles after fire on 787 Dreamliner


Meanwhile, an unspecified mechanical issue caused another 787 flown by Thomson Airways to return to Manchester Airport, adding to concerns about the plane.

This was a tweet about the ^^this plane    RT @PSpotting: Thomson 787 has turned back over the Atlantic to Manchester and is dumping fuel over the Irish sea. [link to twitter.com (secure)]



Thanks Reddwolf for links/tweet    so two airplanes and one train derailment in one day.

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Sorry I'm in a rush at the moment and can't post properly.


Re: ASIANA crash in SF, Korean Air investigation got info from the pilot:

34 seconds before crashing, about 150m above ground, he was overwhelmed by bright flash of light appearing in his sight, became unable to see the front view....

Laser beam of some sort?

Source: (in Japanese)


If anyone else come across to this bit of info in English, please post!

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Maybe trying to find any excuse at the moment?  I have my doubts.

BTW the Dreamliner fires with Li-Po batteries. I use these in model planes and they are known for fires if mishandled. There have been models go on fire in mid-air and on the ground. Type Li-Po fires in Youtube and you can enjoy for yourself... lol

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Asiana Airline crash pilots names released by the NTSB .  A serious WTF moment.

I’ve got to ask, who are the rocket scientists at the NTSB?  Some white guys named Jack Mehoffer and Rod Thrustwell no doubt are the authors of this, their boss, named Richard Head, approved the whole public release.

omg LOL.. but no lol.. you know what I mean !

U.S. NTSB apologizes for gaffe over derogatory Asiana pilot names


July 12 (Reuters) - The National Transportation Safety Board apologized on Friday after an intern mistakenly confirmed to a local television station racially offensive fake names for the pilots of an Asiana flight that crashed in San Francisco.

"The National Transportation Safety Board apologizes for

inaccurate and offensive names that were mistakenly confirmed as

those of the pilots of Asiana flight 214, which crashed at San

Francisco International Airport on July 6," the NTSB said in a


"Earlier today, in response to an inquiry from a media

outlet, a summer intern acted outside the scope of his authority

when he erroneously confirmed the names of the flight crew on

the aircraft," the NTSB said.

The crash of the Boeing 777 plane resulted in the deaths of

three teenage girls in a group of students from eastern China

who were visiting the United States for a summer camp, one of

whom died on Friday in the hospital. Over 180 passengers and

crew members were injured.

The cluster of ' accidents ' of  planes trains & automobiles inc ships of all description both military and private seems to be very focused and in our view at the moment. So what is happening around the world while our focus is directed towards these incidents whether they are true or false or staged i.e. acted out, smoke and mirrors.  Keep searching ?


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14 dead, over 40 injured as passenger bus collides with truck in Moscow

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Denver-bound train collides with standing train in Hays

Smoke rose Tuesday from the intersection of Eighth and Vine streets as fire crews battled a blaze caused by a westbound freight train striking a standing train early Tuesday morning.

The accident occurred at approximately 1:25 a.m. and, as of 8 a.m., train cars still were burning. Hays Fire Department tower trucks were on the scene attempting to contain the fire. Three locomotives and 79 cars were part of the train, which was carrying low-grade ethanol and general freight that also included steel, wheat, beer and particle board. Twenty tankers carrying low-grade ethanol did not derail, but about a dozen freight cars were seen overturned. Of the three locomotives, the fuel for two of them was on fire. There was a large amount of diesel due to the train stopping at Salina for fuel, and flames reached up to 40 feet into the air at the height of the fire early Tuesday morning.





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HAZ-MAT called to train derailment

July 17, 2013


"BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) - HAZ-MAT crews were called to the CSX rail line in Buffalo Wednesday when three cars jumped the tracks.

A train with two locomotives and 70 cars was heading from Indianapolis, Indiana to Selkirk, NY, which is near Albany, when the last three cars derailed around 7:30 p.m. Two of the cars contained plastic pellets and there was some spillage. The other was a tanker that contained ethanol, and though there was a small leak, it was quickly secured. HAZ-MAT crews were then called off."


why would the last 3 cars of a train derail.????  suggestions??? perhaps something on or near the track that causes a problem?  This makes no sense, unless the tracks had been compromised by something, someone and having all the cars travel over them, causes some sort of problem..hmmm, interesting.  How about a small explosive device or someone possibly removing part of a railroad tie??  This is the way Redd and I are thinking.  anyone else??  Getting to be a daily occurrence.

another source of info  Tx Reddwolf


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At first I thought they were sabotaging them in some way for some reason, then the other day I had this feeling that something else is causing damage to the tracks at such a rate that they can't possibly check all the tracks often enough to find new problems.  I felt it had something to do with what's happening all over earth at the moment, movement, sinking etc. If enough ground is moving to cause sinkholes then there may well be lesser felt movements affecting the rail tracks themselves.  AND TPTW couldn't close down the whole rail system because of this problem or they would have to admit there is a problem in the first place and you know how they hate to do that.

I honestly feel there is more to this than sabotage.  The bridges I thought they were doing to stop or slow movement of people between regions, but this train thing seems more likely to be something out of their control and they don't know what to do about it.  Just my thoughts.

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