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Time For Hungrexit: PM Orban Opposes Mass Immigration In Hungary, Attacks Soros In German Press

JANUARY 11, 2018

By Brandon Turbeville

Source Link:  https://www.activistpost.com/2018/01/time-for-hungrexit-pm-orban-opposes-mass-immigration-in-hungary-attacks-soros-in-german-press.html

 

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Viktor Orban has caused shockwaves amongst the EU and the European establishment in recent years and has subsequently drawn the wrath of that establishment, resulting in an attempted color revolution in Hungary. Orban survived that attempt, however, and is continuing to “trigger” the EU with his refusal to destroy his country and culture with mass immigration and his open condemnation of George Soros and the destabilization empire Soros has maintained in Eastern Europe for decades.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel, head of the most oppressive Communo-Fascist country in Europe, has repeatedly promoted the policy of mass migration to Germany (as well as the policy to end free speech and dissent) and has stood in direct contrast to any leader that expresses concern over the influx of “refugees,” the overwhelming majority of whom are economic migrants. While Germany has essentially uprooted its own country and taken in millions of immigrants (with no real attempts at assimilation), Hungary has refused to take in any, even building an electric border fence to keep the mass of immigrants from passing through Hungary.

In an interview with Bild, a German news agency, Orban made his statements regarding mass migration. The exchange went as follows:

The EU, however, is not only based on laws, but also on solidarity. Why is Germany able to accept 2 million refugees and Hungary cannot even accept 2000? 

Orban: “The difference is you wanted the migrants, and we didn’t. We are doing our job by defending the Schengen external border with Serbia. This has cost us an additional one billion Euros since 2015, and Brussels is not paying a single cent. The solution of the problem is not to disperse people in the whole EU territory who are illegally staying in the EU. We think that one must help where the problem is located instead of bringing the migrants here.”

And why don’t the Hungarians want refugees? 

Orban: “We do not consider these people to be Muslim refugees. We consider them to be Muslim invaders. For instance, somebody who wants to come from Syria to Hungary must cross four countries that are not as rich as Germany, but stable. So they are not running for their lives there. They are economic migrants who are looking for a better life.”

Are they therefore less valuable as human beings? 

Orban: “When somebody would like to come to your house, first they knock on the door and then ask: can we come in, can we stay? But they didn’t do that; they crossed the border illegally. That was not a wave of refugees, but an invasion. Concerning the migration issue, I never understood how it is possible that in a country like Germany – which is the best example of discipline and the rule of law – the chaos, anarchy, and illegal crossing of borders could be celebrated as a good thing.”

Orban: “Politically, the refugee issue is a European problem, but sociologically, it’s a German problem. Since you mentioned the EU refugee quota: why could the Portuguese Prime Minister say: ‘Welcome! Come to us!’ Because no refugee would like to go to Portugal. They all want to go to Germany. The reason why they are in your country is not that they are refugees, but that they would like to have a German life.

I can only speak for the Hungarian people, and it doesn’t want migration. It’s impossible, in my understanding, that there is a will of the people on a very fundamental issue, and the leadership of the country rejects to follow the public will. We are talking about sovereignty and the cultural identity of the country here. We have to keep the right to decide who can stay in the territory of Hungary.”

Obviously, the Hungarian Prime Minister has many problems and the occasional accurate statement does not equal the necessity to pretend that Orban is the savior of Hungary. However, in this instance, he is acting in the best interests of his country.

Though many take issue with his labeling of migrants as “Muslim invaders” considering the fact that Western invaders have been terrorizing Africa and the Middle East for nearly a century, he does have a point. Hungarian culture and the culture of the migrants attempting to enter Hungary are very different and, when facing one another in large numbers, they do create “parallel societies” which benefit neither the host or migrant population. These massive numbers do not assimilate but merge together in their own neighborhoods and thus an internal “second nation” is formed. This second nation can be used for cheap labor and a battering ram against the first nation for political purposes by oligarchical forces and, without a doubt, it leads to the disintegration of national culture and the breakup of society.

Likewise, his statements regarding George Soros have attracted a lot of European attention. When asked about his previous actions to limit Soros’ influence, the exchange took place as follows:

The most wonderful thing in Europe is the freedom of expression and the freedom of the press. You, however, are running a nation-wide poster campaign against your arch enemy – the Hungarian Holocaust survivor and billionaire George Soros. Moreover, the organisation “Reporters without Borders” is concerned about the freedom of the press in your country. 

Orban: “Mr Soros is also running a campaign against the Hungarian government, and in that, he is not restricted by anything. This is an open discussion that proves the freedom of the press. Mr Soros – who has made his money with casino capitalism – considers himself as a statesman without a state. With his money, he supports 60 non-government organisations that support migrants and illegal immigration. This is not about the freedom expression, but national security. At this point, I have to become active. And concerning the media: I don’t think the German press has more freedom than the Hungarian press. I can’t imagine that.”

Again, Orban is correct. Germany does not have more freedom of the press than Hungary nor does it have more freedom than virtually anyone else besides, perhaps, North Korea and Saudi Arabia. He is also correct to point out that the captain of the Color Revolution Industrial Complex has been launching a war against Hungary and Orban himself for the past several years. Indeed, Orban and Hungary are not the only Soros targets either since Soros’ networks at operating all across Europe, the Middle East, and Asia.

Of course, Orban isn’t expressing any deep understanding of what is happening across the world, how the West has destabilized and destroyed much of the Middle East and Africa, or how the European Union is totalitarian iron curtain, but the fact that his basic statements have generated such controversy in both Germany and the rest of Europe is a testament to just how far Europe has fallen. Even the basic logic that Hungarians have a right to have their own Hungarian culture and the right to control who comes in and out of their borders is considered heresy.

This, unfortunately is the extent to which Europeans themselves have become neutered. Even among the general population, particularly in Germany, there does not even seem to be the concept of self-preservation. Germans, for instance, while screaming “never again” in regards to their Nazi past, have descended into outright Communo-Fascism, with not even the basic rights of freedom of speech, expression, or thought remaining. Anyone who has the audacity to speak plainly or speak openly about what is happening to their country is labeled a thought/speech criminal and silenced immediately. The result of Orban’s heresy, if lived up to, will be the maintaining of a Hungarian Hungary while the rest of Europe falls apart.

But while Orban’s statements are largely correct, the Bild interviewer asked a pertinent question. If the EU is giving you so many problems, why don’t you leave? In fact, that question and sentiment was echoed by Guy Verhofstadt, member of the EU parliament, who said “The European Union was built to guarantee our citizens’ freedom, democracy and the rule of law. If the Hungarian and Polish governments want to build closed and illiberal societies, they must do it outside the EU.” Ignoring the erroneous first part of that statement, Verhofstadt’s suggestion is valid and so is Bild’s question.

The EU has imposed innumerable unnecessary regulations on its member states, Malthusian “climate change” provisions, clamped down on free speech, engaged in political bullying, is undemocratic, and has flooded Europe with so many immigrants some countries now seem to belong on another continent. So why stay? Britain left the EU. Hungary could do it, too.

In fact, Hungary would be much better off outside the European iron curtain, provided it would nationalize its central bank, end neo-liberal “free trade” policies, and begin investing in its own infrastructure. If Orban truly wants the best for Hungary, he should ironically take the queue from Verhofstadt and leave the EU. We’ve had Brexit. Now it’s time for Hungrexit.

 

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I'm sure you were all aware of this situation

 

Trump's Response was

Trump Plans to Send National Guard to the Mexican Border

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/03/us/politics/trump-border-immigration-caravan.html

and the immigrants are here

The caravan of migrants that’s alarmed President Trump stalls at a soccer field

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/the-caravan-of-migrants-thats-alarmed-president-trump-has-now-stalled/2018/04/03/534b01c2-36aa-11e8-af3c-2123715f78df_story.html?utm_term=.23dcb7195e9e

and

SHOWDOWN=> Defiant Caravan of Illegal Aliens Unfazed by Trump’s Call to Guard Mexican Border With Military – Continue Marching to US

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/04/showdown-defiant-caravan-of-illegal-aliens-unfazed-by-trumps-call-to-guard-mexican-border-with-military-continue-marching-to-us/

Where this ends who knows. Perhaps they will take those humanitarian Mexican vIsas.   Let's hope it ends well for all.  My question is, how this got started?  All of a sudden thousands of Hondurans head for the US, out of the blue and on foot?

 

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Woooow, you are right, breezy....why all of a sudden...??

What were they told/learned to do what they are doing, which we don't know of??

Did the Q group ever mention about this?? It IS strange.

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@unity....IF I ever get caught up, I do believe so.   Saying we're under attack, but I haven't studied all that's been said yet, so could be wrong in my interpretation. I'm working at it, lol

 

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The Central American Caravan That Angered Trump Has Reached The US Border

April 24, 2018              Adolfo Flores

The arrival of the group, made up primarily of Central Americans, sets up a confrontation over US asylum laws.

"A migrant caravan that began its journey through Mexico a month ago is nearing the US border, where its arrival will set up a confrontation between the Trump administration's anti-immigration policies and US laws that require the United States to grant asylum to people with valid persecution claims.

A group of about 130 women and children from the migrant caravan are expected to arrive in Mexicali, on the Mexican side of the US border, sometime Tuesday after an overnight bus trip from Hermosillo, in Mexico's Sonora state.

While media attention to the caravan has dropped in recent weeks, the Trump administration has been keeping a watchful eye on the caravan's progress. Kirstjen Nielsen, secretary of the Department of Homeland Security, said Monday that her agency was monitoring "the remnants" of the caravan.

“If members of the ‘caravan’ enter the country illegally, they will be referred for prosecution for illegal entry in accordance with existing law," Nielsen said in a statement. "For those seeking asylum, all individuals may be detained while their claims are adjudicated efficiently and expeditiously, and those found not to have a claim will be promptly removed from the United States."

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https://www.buzzfeed.com/adolfoflores/the-central-american-caravan-that-angered-trump-is-nearing?utm_term=.fhZ175JjnX#.gbm9zqvoZY

 

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41,000 Unaccompanied Children Apprehended at Border in Recent Months

Penny Starr         August 16, 2018

 

"Richard Hudson, acting chief of Law Enforcement Operations Directorate with the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), said at a hearing on Thursday that, in recent months, agents have apprehended 41,000 children without parents or guardians and encountered as many as a quarter of a million since 2014 at the U.S. border with Mexico.

“Between Oct. 1, 2017, and July 31, 2018, more than 41,000 UACs have been apprehended by the U.S. Border Patrol,” Hudson said, noting that 7,000 of those were deemed inadmissible at ports of entry.

“Since 2014, when we saw the first surge of UACs, CBP has encountered nearly 250,000 UAC’s along the southwest border,” Hudson said.

“These children arrive at our border after a difficult and dangerous journey, and many have been subjected to abuse at the hands of human traffickers, criminals, and opportunists,” Hudson said."
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https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/08/16/41000-unaccompanied-children-apprehended-at-border-in-recent-months/

Why without adults?  How could any parent send their child on a trip like this and knowing the conditions on the trail?  Next question, why no outrage on the part of some of the big mouth politicians over it and what on earth are we to do with all these "kids"? SMH

 

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Backlash Against Venezuelan Refugees Grows Across South America

August 24, 2018           Paulo Trevisani and Samantha Pearson

 

"PACARAIMA, Brazil—Arriving home from work last Friday in this sweltering Amazonian town along Venezuela’s border, a shopkeeper was beaten by a group of four men who tied him and his wife up before taking $5,600 he had stuffed in his pocket to buy supplies the next day.

The attack proved to be a tipping point for this impoverished town of 10,000 people, where—like across swaths of South America—sympathy is beginning to give way to resentment over the 2.3 million Venezuelans the U.N. estimates have fled to neighboring countries since 2014.

News of the assault prompted Pacaraima locals, who already had been planning a protest the next day, to set fire to a refugee camp and chase away Venezuelans with rocks. The army said at least 1,200 Venezuelans fled Brazil that day back to their homeland."

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/backlash-against-venezuelan-refugees-grows-across-south-america-1535132655

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Honduras, Guatemala move to stop migrant caravan after Trump threats

Oct. 16, 2018              Doina Chiacu and Jorge Cabrera

 

"WASHINGTON/ESQUIPULAS, Guatemala (Reuters) - The organizer of a migrant caravan from Honduras was detained in Guatemala on Tuesday as the U.S. government threatened to withdraw aid from both countries and El Salvador if the flow of migrants north to the United States was not stopped.

Up to 3,000 migrants, according to organizers' estimates, crossed from Honduras into Guatemala on a trek northward after a standoff on Monday with police in riot gear.

The Honduran Foreign Ministry called on its citizens not to join the group. The government "urges the Hondurans taking part in this irregular mobilization not to be used by a movement that is clearly political," it said.

Honduran president Juan Orlando Hernandez said in a public address on Tuesday evening some Hondurans in the caravan had already returned home and the government was preparing to support them. He did not specify how many had turned back.

Over the border, Guatemalan police officers detained Bartolo Fuentes, a former Honduran lawmaker, from the middle of the large crowd that he and three other organizers had led from San Pedro Sula, Honduras, since Saturday."
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https://ca.news.yahoo.com/honduras-guatemala-act-stop-migrants-trump-threats-001536209.html

 

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Thousands of US-bound migrants storm Guatemala-Mexico border (VIDEOS)

Oct. 19, 2018  RT

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"Thousands of migrants have arrived at the Mexico-Guatemala border, with some climbing over the fence separating the two countries. US President Donald Trump has threatened to close the US-Mexico border and call in the military.
Photos posted online show some of the migrants breaking down the fence's gate and continuing towards the border bridge.

Mexican television footage showed the migrants being met by dozens of riot police on the bridge who blocked them from entering Mexico. Some could be seen jumping into the river below to get around the block.

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The protesters appear to have broken a second gate, this time at the border bridge.

The migrants appear to be using makeshift rafts to cross the Suchiate River. Some can also be seen holding a rope on the riverbank which others are using to cross from a raft to the shore."

snip  video  thousands of people

https://www.rt.com/usa/441774-us-bound-migrants-guatemala-mexico/

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You want to see/understand who/what is coming across our southern border with Mexico? Visit the link and watch the videos from cams a farmer has on his land that directly borders Mexico.  A four strand barbed wire fence is all the separation he has with Mexico.  Yet we shouldn't be concerned?

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/arizona-ranchers-video-of-illegal-armed-border-crossers

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28 minutes ago, breezy said:

You want to see/understand who/what is coming across our southern border with Mexico? Visit the link and watch the videos from cams a farmer has on his land that directly borders Mexico.  A four strand barbed wire fence is all the separation he has with Mexico.  Yet we shouldn't be concerned?

https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/arizona-ranchers-video-of-illegal-armed-border-crossers

This is an orchestrated invasion. They are equipped with weapons and communication tools. Why are the borders not secured? Is the military of USA avoiding confontration? 

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No shit ....  this has been orceherstrated from the time we a have been online ....  i kid you not !!!!!!!!!!!!  Those of you who know me well need no explaination for what i say ,,...the past reveals the future ... we .............. we ........ are an experiment ...... full stop ................... full fucking stop ........................... You really have to gather to DOTS follow the people in the know , listen learn , think for yourself ,then ,,,,,,  maybe you will be the teacher  of those to come ....... please ,, please let it be you ...... we have lost so many good .... nay great people  really great great people ones who would give their lives , have given their lives to " the real human people " Please  you would not be here if you didnt have an incline of whats going on around you , of your knowledge pass it on , and further more , teach the youngsters ...... think big ,, think bigger , even bigger still , im talking exteresteral im talking ET, im talking beings who should not be here but are , even the ones pretending to be our friends , the ones looking after us ,, the only ones that can help us is US , NOT THE USA ,, US ,,,,,, US ,,, us   ...........ourselves ....... I am crying .... really i am crying ,,, there is not end ,   unless we band together ... look at every country around you ,, everywhere , everywhere there are riots flipping everywhere FFS please look around you , cricks sake open your flipping eyes ,,  please wake up ,  the whole world is at a X crossroads , can you name a country where there is not a demonstration going on right now , even if you read this 5, nay 10 or 15 years from now its stlll the same old shit ,,, and that is the crux of what they want you to believe ,their propaganda , their STORY, their HISTORY , HI -STORY ,, HIS STORY .........................DO YOU GET IT YET ........ History is written by the victor ................... WRITE what you flippin well want ,,, only in words will it be seen and learnt ... and still the real learning will be what is seen, and recorded by real hu-mans  ........... do you see ....... not by wikipedeia , or by smithsonians or other alpahbet groups .....

WHAT IS SEEN AND WHAT WE SEE IS BUT AN ILLUSION ....

Look to your elders , look for those that came before you , espesially on this forum , for here it known , that here is the place to find TRUTH , those that KNOW , and those that are KNOWN ............................................................. I cannot stress his enough  ........................

MY TIME IS LIMITED ....  and time is yet limited ....... and even as our old friend NARNUG would argue TIME  limited it initself is unlimited .....

 

 

FFS ;- listen to us .... please ...   the people on this channel care ,, really care about who you are and what you are being led into believing and seeing ..... we are trying to save ourselves and you.....  all of YOU ,,,, ALL .....................

 

its not personal PANX ,, a general message for all for the time i have left ..... i really do love you all for being YOU ....

 

CHEERS .................Fly ................ XXXXX

 

 

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For some reason cant get into TS,, i love you guys and gals,,, Hope T , Phillip, Kandesant  , and all you wonderful people are ok, love to you all , miss our bree , redster and all are ok love to you all ,, we are all still connected ...........

 

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Hello Fly    So good to see you.     We would love to see you in t.s.  Hope everything is well with you.

 

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AHHH My Redster  i do so miss you my lovely lady  ...... soon so soon i will be in ,,, please give my regards to the team ,, miss you guys and gals , love to you all XXX

 

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This is our TS server and password fly     Its amazing to see you today as i was thinking how much you were missed just yesterday.  Great minds!

The new address for Teamspeak at this time, is as follows:

 

julieattrees.mainvoice.info:7915     Password is:  jingles

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I got your back, Fly!

We all sit in the same boat, I also cry when treated unfair.

The adversary is very strong and our only survival is strategizing against it. 

I'm hanging on with all of you chanities even though I haven't met any of you. yet!

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Sure  i have that red , but cant get passed that first phase , you can be sure i will try again tomorrow, forever yours my dear love to you and yours x Fly x 

 

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Please do Fly   Breezy and the gang will be so happy to see you.  You have made my day.   Love you back my friend.

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Thanks Panx , Thank you for being patient with me its been a long time since i was last here , its my only place to visit to gather information ... as you can see the TS crew now who i am, i really do love you all ......

 

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Great reply Fly. Really something to think about. It takes a lot for people to wake up. Just now i saw a guy explaining it was all good what was happening cause with Globalism we would all be free and in peace. Never really understanding what really is happening at the borders. People just do not want to wake up. They only will when it is too late.

Great to see you again Fly.

Neo

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What a nice surprise Fly, very nice to see you and read your posts.  :hug:Please try TS *maybe need updates?

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Great to hear your still hanging in there like the rest of us Icanseeatoms ... look forward to chatting soon... 

by;phill

ps by the way we have missed you and you are mentioned fondly from time to time, I personally when ever I think of our old friend Bulla you and Kdog come to mind... missed but never forgotten 

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Great to see your posts again, Fly/ICSA!

And re: Flood Gate opening....

None of you would see this happening on any media, but Japan is copping the same. Systematically it's done.

Currently Japan is #4 of the world after the UK accepting massive surging number of strange "immigrants" arriving and Japanese nation who are still under the Mind Control haven't got their eyes opened yet to see the reality and opposing voicing power is very limited at the moment.

Oz is being #10 in the same list. Please compare the size of land between Japan and Oz....it just doesn't make any sense IMHO.

Quietly Japan is under the cultural genocide, as well as Chinese people moving in in huge number that actually starting to create THEIR OWN TOWNS where no Japanese feel safe to go.

In Chinese language, they have blatantly advertising on their own publications pointing out how to sneak in and get the fake resident visas, selling medical products not allowed to sell, and offering the ways to invade other parts of Japan quietly. All are explicitly printed, and if you can read Chinese language, then you know the story.

So the same situation as in Uyghur, Tibet and Inner Mongolia is happening in Japan.

(Back in 2008, Chinese people started a RIOT in Japan. Under the bloody order from then PM Fukuda, who told not to interfere by force against that riot, many police personnel who got sent in to stop it were threatened for life, and people who got caught after the riot were 5 Japanese and a Tibetan, all of them trying to speak up the atrocity happening in Tibet. WTF.) 

And it's PM Abe pushing it. We think this is a plan of attack against Japan made by a horrific faction, who have taken over what the Cs were doing before and using it as their own advantage.

PM Abe might had been told to do this by the faction that is backing him---he's surrounded by the Vs as 3rd generation politician came from the town filled with Vs (however, he is the only best shot we got...sadly)....but now loads of awaken people in Japan are standing against what PM has been doing....like opened the flood gate of MONSANTO GMOs without telling the bigger picture to the farmers, while EU (except Spain) and Russia are shutting the gates down. 

Currently a policy is being getting ready to accept 50,000 "immigrants" without creating proper laws like stopping all immigrants bringing their family members to receive medical services (not even living in Japan) out of public system, which Japanese tax payers are paying the fund. We already know that there are people with serious illnesses coming to Japan only to get hospitalised, receive very expensive surgeries and treatments like $50k/person, and make RUN, not paying absolutely nothing back to Japanese Health Care Fund. And in real number, there's 1 immigrant in every 50 people in Japan. But the ratio will be worse and worse unless Japan stops grubbing its own throat.

The original laws were created for the Japanese nation. Now accepting all these weird "immigrants" who don't have any wish to assimilate or give back anything to Japan, the system is in dire crisis, not supporting Japanese people to be able to receive the help. 

Social security system is riddled by the immigrants who arrive and straight away ending up of becoming the recepients, it's stated that number being 4X that of Japanese people.

Something REALLY does not feel right.....

Though none of us are seeing the marching people turning up to Japan like the US border as such, but the same situation is happening.

.............I have a photographic evidence to be able to show what it's like at the UN and how many nasty hybrids are in plot of working against Japan via PM Abe.

But I fear for my life if I release it publicly here. But at least I can describe the scene to you instead.

PM Abe made a speech at the UN about 2 months ago. After that speech, there was this huge line of people wanted to shake hands with him. (Mind you, there weren't many people attending the speech....despite the length of the friggin cue.)

There are hell a lot of them showing brightly shining eyes.....almost about 45% whom lined up in the cue had shown the traits of V-hybrids.

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Fidel Castro was supposed to have been the Duke of Castro, from one of the Paypal royal lines and descended from Pope Alexander the third.

In the 19th century extensive land holdings in Califiornia belonging to  the Castro family that had been confiscated  were ratified as theirs  and returned  to them after going through the California courts.(Leuren Moret , youtube).

https://news.grabien.com/story-julian-castro-2020-im-seriously-thinking-about-it-and-im-lik?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=mixi&utm_campaign=grabien

 

 

 

 

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