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Trains are getting harder and harder to keep on their tracks.  Strange given trains have been around for what feels like forever .....

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I was thinking the same thing Jessica.

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Indonesia commuter train in deadly collision

9 December 2013 Last updated at 06:53 ET

A commuter train has collided with a vehicle in Indonesia's capital, Jakarta, causing parts of the train to burst into flames.

The incident happened in south Jakarta. The vehicle, said to be a truck carrying fuel, crashed into the train tracks, reports say.

At least five people were killed, including three people working for the train company, police said.

Pictures from the scene showed black smoke billowing from the crash site.

The collision happened at 11:21 local time (04:21 GMT) at a train crossing in Bintaro Permai, police say.

Earlier reports had said that the truck was carrying liquefied gas canisters.

At least five people have been found dead inside the carriages, police told the BBC.

The number of injured is estimated to be at 78, police added. Dozens are reportedly suffering from burn injuries.

Most of those being treated were women, hospital officials say, as the first carriage which caught fire was exclusive for female passengers.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-25263551

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http://www.infowars.com/director-who-released-obama-birth-certificate-dies-in-plane-crash/

 

The health director who approved the release of President Obama’s long form birth certificate, which some claim was a fraudulent document, has died in an unexplained plane crash in Hawaii, it was announced today.

Was Loretta Fuddy’s plane crash just a tragic accident, or did she have knowledge that the release of the birth certificate was nothing more than a staged PR stunt?

 

Icanseeatoms.

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Train Derailment outside Casselton, N.Dakota.

December 30, 2013

 

 

BREAKING NEWS:  A train is derailed west of Casselton, North Dakota. It happened at 35th Street and 154th Avenue Southeast just before 2:20 p.m Monday.

 

No injuries have been reported so far. Several area emergency teams are on scene and are setting up an incident command center. The Cass County Sheriff's Office says a train went off the tracks and a second train hit it.

 

Several train cars are on fire and huge plumes of toxic, black smoke can be seen for miles. Several explosions have also been reported. Emergency crews are urging people to stay inside and a code red alert has been sent out to residents in a two mile radius of the accident.  cont

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UPDATED 4:30 P.M.

From the Cass County Sheriff's Office: A 104 car BNSF Train collided with another train while traveling eastbound approximately one mile west of Casselton, ND. How the collision occurred is unknown at this time. cont

UPDATED 7:10 P.M.

The Cass County Sheriff's Office is strongly recommending an evacuation of the entire City of Casselton and anyone residing five miles to the south and east of Casselton, effective immediately.

Information from the National Weather Service indicates a shift in the weather resulting in a high pressure system that will push the plume of smoke down increasing the risk of potential health hazards.  cont.

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http://www.valleynewslive.com/story/24329396/partial-evacuation-for-city-of-casselton-following-train-derailment

 

Once again, a train carrying OIL from ND oil fields, crashed on a straight stretch of RR track.  Crashed into another train, when there are two sets of tracks side by side??? There is about 7 miles between Casselton and Wheatland.  Then there are explosions, hmmm. does  oil explode, and doesn't this sound an awful lot like what happened up in Canada a while back.??  hmmmm

 

tx Reddwolf

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Once again, a train carrying OIL from ND oil fields, crashed on a straight stretch of RR track.  Crashed into another train, when there are two sets of tracks side by side??? There is about 7 miles between Casselton and Wheatland.  Then there are explosions, hmmm. does  oil explode, and doesn't this sound an awful lot like what happened up in Canada a while back.??  hmmmm

 

tx Reddwolf

 

Oh boy, this does sound familiar, breezy. I wonder if this is another case of an empty train (no engineer) like the Canada one. Let me know if you get into any sleuthing on this one.

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@kandescent.  yes, I went immediately to google earth and checked it out. What is unusual to me, is once again flat land, double tracks side by side, and an absolutely STRAIGHT stretch of rail. Not only that, it seems to me that the distance between towns is very very similar to the derailment in Canada, as in just about 7 miles. IMO this is all about the Keystone Pipeline.

 

Warning issued about oil shipped from ND, Mont

MATTHEW BROWN and JAMES MacPHERSON

January 2, 2014

 

"BILLINGS, Mont. (AP) — Following a string of explosive accidents, federal officials say crude oil being shipped by rail from the Northern Plains across the U.S. and Canada may be more flammable than traditional forms of oil.

 

A safety alert issued by the U.S. Department of Transportation warns the public, emergency responders and shippers about the potential high volatility of crude from the Bakken oil patch. The sprawling oil shale reserve is fueling the surging industry in eastern Montana and western North Dakota, which is now the nation's second-largest oil producer behind Texas.

 

Thursday's announcement from officials declares that the Bakken's light, sweet crude oil may be different from traditional heavy crudes because it is prone to ignite at a lower temperature. Experts say lighter crudes, which contain more natural gas, have a much lower "flash point" — the temperature at which vapors given off by the oil can ignite.

 

The government's warning comes after a huge explosion on Monday caused by a crude train derailment near Casselton, N.D. No one was hurt, but worries about toxic fumes prompted the evacuation of hundreds of residents from the small eastern North Dakota town."

 

The oil boom in the Bakken has reduced the nation's reliance on imported oil and brought thousands of jobs to the region. But as companies increasingly rely on trains instead of pipelines to get that oil to lucrative coastal markets, public safety in communities bisected by rail lines has become a major concern.

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Officials have now gone a step further, declaring that the Bakken's light oil — extracted from shale formations through the drilling process known as hydraulic fracturing, or "fracking" — may be different.

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http://news.yahoo.com/warning-issued-oil-shipped-nd-mont-185942105.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@kandescent.  yes, I went immediately to google earth and checked it out. What is unusual to me, is once again flat land, double tracks side by side, and an absolutely STRAIGHT stretch of rail. Not only that, it seems to me that the distance between towns is very very similar to the derailment in Canada, as in just about 7 miles. IMO this is all about the Keystone Pipeline.

 

 

One thing about the spacings of towns along railway lines...

 

In the 'Age of Steam', there was a practical limit in the distance the engines could travel between water points - not a great distance, so they would space the stations about that far apart, hopefully on flat ground, and with water tank and supply, and every few stations, include a coal bunker.

 

This was also useful in the dairy farm and a few other areas, as the daily train could pick up the cream, maybe milk, and other perishable produce.

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breezy, have you heard whether there was an engineer on this one or was it another run-away train. I tried to find it in the article, but didn't see it. Of course, with my brain these days, that doesn't mean it's not there!

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@ EagleWings Thank you, ND is wide open with lots of farm land. So your explanation does hold water, errr milk. However, I do know that in ND, they do a lot of trucking of milk.  But my main interest was why there were very few details given about this crash, and how the main thing they are talking about is only the oil they were transporting.  All about the oil, but less than sufficient info about the wreck itself.  WHY did the train derail? It had nothing to do with the oil they were carrying.  And in the cold, it would seem to me the fumes would be at a minimum.  Not like in the heat of the summer when the oil and gas? fumes would expand exponentially which would increase it's volatility and explosive qualities. I also know it's possible for train tracks to freeze and break, but nowhere in either article did it say WHAT caused the train to derail.  The only thing they are pushing is how unsafe it is to transport this particular oil.  That is because they want to transport it via pipelines built everywhere. that the people are resisting.  Several trains have derailed while carrying oil from ND to refineries. Pretty strange imo.  The accident in Quebec and this one had a lot of similarities I thought, that is why I brought it up.

 

@kandescent. I don't think this was a run away train w/o an engineer. However, very few details about the wreck itself, or what caused it. This in itself, plus the talk about this oil being more volatile and the bringing up of different fracking procedures, and how dangerous it is to transport this oil via train, just convince me it is all about forcing people into approving pipelines. If the track froze and broke, Or if the engineer fell asleep at the wheel, or any number of things that could have happened. Why NOT say what caused the wreck? 

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@breezy, I agree - with any dangerous goods load, they are supposed to take extra safety precautions and care, and run a a slower speed.

 

So either it is neglect of the rules and regulations ($$$??) or ????

 

As Al Capone is quoted saying :

First time, an accident...

Second time - suspicious...

Third time - deliberate...

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Small Plane Lands on Bronx Expressway

Saturday, Jan 4, 2014 | Updated 7:32 PM EST

 

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A small plane landed on the Major Deegan Expressway in the Bronx Saturday afternoon, according to the city's Office of Emergency Management.

The plane, which took off in Danbury, Conn., landed near East 233rd Street.

Three injuries were reported in connection with the landing, officials said, but none of them were serious. Previous reports said four people were injured.

The injured were taken to St. Barnabas Hospital in the Bronx. St. Barnabas released a statement saying the hospital received two men and one woman, and that two had refused treatment. All three were expected are expected to be released shortly.

The plane had minor damage, according to the FAA, and was a four-seat, one-engine 1966 Piper PA.

The plane is registered to Michael Schwartz of South Salem, N.Y., and the Danbury Municipal Airport confirmed that Schwartz was the pilot when it took off.

The circumstances surrounding the plane's landing are still unclear.

 

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Plane-Lands-on-Bronx-Expressway-Major-Deegan-238724391.html
 

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Aspen plane crash: 1 dead in crash landing that ignites plane into fireball

January 5, 2014

 

 

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"An Aspen plane crash took the life of one of the three people on board the small plane that crashed landed Sunday afternoon. The plane crashed on the runway then flipped over and burst into flames immediately as it came into Aspen-Pitkin County Airport in Western Colorado, according to Fox News on Jan. 5.

 

Fox News live on Sunday evening reports that one of the people on board died, another is in serious condition and the third person is said to have suffered minor injuries in this crash. The Bombardier Challenger 600 aircraft flew to Aspen from Tucson Arizona where it crashed on landing. The Federal Aviation Administration confirmed that the plane’s flight originated in Tucson."

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Reading back a few pages I got almost overwhelmed at the body count. If it wasn't such a tedious job to me, I would compile the casualties for the entire thread to get a better idea of the sum total of death by so called technical issues.

 

I bet it will come out on top compared to the other threads.

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Let's see yesterday we had a USAF helicopter go down in Norfolk, UK referenced here

 

http://forums.thechaniproject.com/topic/5690-current-events-from-around-the-world/page-10

and here

 

US air crew killed in helicopter crash in Norfolk are named

http://www.itv.com/news/story/2014-01-07/helicopter-air-crash-cley-north-norfolk/

 

 

Today we had a NAVY helicopter go down in Norfolk, Virginia

 

One dead, one missing as Navy helicopter crashes off Virginia coast

By David Zucchino

Jan. 8, 2014

 

"A U.S. Navy helicopter on a training mission crashed into the sea off the Virginia coast Wednesday, killing one sailor and triggering a search for a missing crew member, the Navy announced.

 

Three crew members were rescued after the MH-53-E Sea Dragon transport helicopter went down about 11 a.m., the Navy said in a statement. The sailors were plucked from the sea by rescue crews about 20 miles off the coast and taken to Sentara Norfolk General Hospital in Norfolk."

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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-na-nn-navy-helicopter-crash-virginia-20140108,0,425257.story

 

so what was that about planes falling from the skies?

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HALIFAX – Residents described a fiery scene after train carrying crude oil and propane derailed in northwestern New Brunswick.

“On our balcony, we can just see flames. Every now and then, there’s a huge fireball, as if there was an explosion,” said Carol Jarvis, who lives in the village of Plaster Rock near where the derailment occurred around 8 p.m. Tuesday

The rest here

http://globalnews.ca/news/1068234/emergency-crews-at-scene-of-train-derailment-near-plaster-rock-n-b/

Just days earlier

After train fires, feds warn Bakken oil may be more flammable than others

BILLINGS, Mon. – Following a string of explosive accidents, federal officials say crude oil being shipped by rail from the Northern Plains across the U.S. and Canada may be more flammable than traditional forms of oil.

http://globalnews.ca/news/1060240/after-train-fires-feds-warn-bakken-oil-may-be-more-flammable-than-others/

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Crashes. One place that we have seen a lot of death recently. Then start adding in the death tolls from hurricane, tornados, the polar vortex, etc. feels like we are being picked off a little at a time.

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No one was injured when three CP Rail cars carrying coal tipped over and went off the CN railway tracks near Burnaby Lake in B.C.'s Lower Mainland Saturday morning.

Burnaby RCMP Staff Sgt. Wayne Baier said police got a call about the derailment just before 11 a.m. PT and arrived at the intersection of Cariboo Road and Government Street to find three out of 152 rail cars tipped over, with the contents spilling out.

"The only contents of the car was coal," he said. "There's been some of the contents have fallen in a nearby stream. We've got a hold of the Ministry of Environment that oversees that issue, and I believe they are responding."

Baier said there was obvious damage to the rail tracks, cars and the immediate surroundings but that no one was hurt and the derailment posed no further risk.

"There is no safety concern to the general public," he said.

Rain could have been a factor

Baier said he received some information that last night's torrential rain may have played a possible factor.

"It's too early to confirm that, but that may have had an effect on the ground underneath the tracks," Baier said.

Police closed Cariboo Road to north-south traffic near the intersection until just before 3 p.m. while the scene was assessed.

RCMP said Canada's Transportation Safety Board would be the lead agency to investigate the derailment.

Earlier this week, a CN freight train jumped the tracks and caught fire near the village of Plaster Rock, N.B., forcing 150 people to leave their homes.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/3-cp-train-cars-carrying-coal-derail-in-burnaby-b-c-1.2493088

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I wasn't going to post the following, until I spotted the spelling mistake...  :) (last sentence before the snip):

 

Sydney train derailment: Services resume as investigators hunt for answers

16 January 2014

 

Crews have worked through the night to get trains running on Sydney's eastern suburbs line after yesterday's derailment.

 

The third carriage of the train came off the tracks near Edgecliff just before 6.00pm AEDT yesterday after a piece of metal track shot up through the floor.

 

Nobody was injured but 700 passengers had to be transferred off the train.

 

The incident caused disruptions to the line between Bondi Junction and Martin Place.

 

Trains began running on the line about 4.30am.

 

Sydney Trains chief executive Howard Collins says it appears a piece of metal channelling came off the tracks.

 

But he says it is too early to know if it was faulty track or an issue with the train.

 

"We believe it's a piece of mental channelling which sits on the track, as to why that went through the floor and what caused it, it is too early to say," he said.  

 

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link:  http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-16/investigators-probe-sydney-train-derailment-services-resume/5202350?section=australianetworknews

 

edited for formatting

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If you're reading this now, the above article was updated 1hr 57 mins ago.

 

The spelling mistake has now been corrected.  

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Another crash in the tidewater area off the Virginia Coast. 

 

Pilot rescued after ejecting from F/A-18E off Va. Beach

 

WVEC.com

Posted on January 15, 2014 at 3:31 PM

Updated today at 5:07 PM

 

VIRGINIA BEACH -- The pilot of an F/A-18E was rescued safely after ejecting from his aircraft during a routine training mission off the Virginia Beach coast Wednesday.

 

According to Naval Air Force Atlantic Commander Mike Kafka, the life raft deployed after the pilot ejected.

The pilot was rescued by a civilian fishing vessel, Kafka said. The pilot was conscious and transported to Norfolk Sentara General Hospital by a Navy MH-60 Sea Hawk.  

 

Kafka tells 13News Now the pilot is in critical condition. 

 

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The crash comes one week after a Navy MH-53E Sea Dragon went down in the Atlantic.  The body of Lt. Sean Christopher Snyder was found in the wreckage. Two sailors died from their injuries.  Two other crewmembers were treated and released.

 

http://www.wvec.com/news/USCG-looking-for-aircraft-debris-off-Va-Beach-coast-240336141.html

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What the heck is going on there?  Thanks Kandescent

 

@MeSmeRiSe  hilarious. well, you know what I mean, right? I don't think anyone proofreads anymore. 

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#crashnotacrash  #planenotaplane

 

Is it just me, or does this seem kind of fishy? All sorts of folks heard the aircraft and the bang/blast. Then all sorts of emergency equipment, including a helicopter and some boats, is sent out for search and rescue. Then, two hours later... oh never mind, we didn't lose an aircraft.  :unsure:

 

Pembrokeshire air-sea search stood down after plane alert

 

An air-and-sea search has been stood down off Pembrokeshire's north coast amid reports that a light aircraft may have crashed into the sea.

 

15 January 2014 Last updated at 16:43 ET

 

Milford Haven coastguards said residents in Trefin reported hearing a loud blast after a low flying aircraft went overhead at around 19:10 GMT.

 

The Ministry of Defence quickly said that none of its jets were involved.

 

A rescue helicopter from RAF Chivenor as well as two all-weather RNLI lifeboats were involved in the search.

 

Coastguard rescue teams as well as police, the fire service and ambulances were also called to the area between Fishguard and St Davids.

 

But the search was called off at 21;20 GMT.

 

The RNLI said its lifeboats were returning to their bases.

 

The search was launched after coastguards said they received numerous calls from villagers reporting aircraft noise followed by a loud bang or blast.

 

"Heard it circling'

 

Sue Whitmore, who runs the Old School Hostel in Trefin, said she had heard what sounded like a light aircraft circling overhead.

 

She said: "I didn't hear the bang. I heard it circling," She described that kind of noise as "very unusual especially at night".

 

"A few minutes ago I heard a helicopter going over towards the sea and a lot of emergency vehicles have gone passed."

 

She said other villagers had told her they had also heard an aircraft followed by a bang.

 

At the Ship Inn pub people report the emergency services have been searching an area between Trefin and St Nicholas.

 

"There are lot of emergency services," said one bar worker.

 

An MoD spokesman later confirmed that the reports did not relate to a military aircraft.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-25753740

 

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@MeSmeRiSe  hilarious. well, you know what I mean, right? I don't think anyone proofreads anymore. 

 

So true!  I see lots of errors these days, but this one was good -- mental channelling  :D  

I was thinking either Freudian Slip, or the article was written after visiting a forum such as this  :lol:

 

Speaking about Freud, someone tried to steal his ashes In London on NYE: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-01-16/sigmund-freuds-ashes-targeted-by-thieves-in-london/5202460?section=australianetworknews 

 

People are getting crazier... 

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Another military aircraft down...
 
Army Investigates Helicopter Death At Hunter Army Airfield
 
By Orlando Montoya
Thu., January 16, 2014 4:46pm (EST)

 

SAVANNAH, Ga.  —   Army investigators are trying to figure out what went wrong in a fatal helicopter landing at Hunter Army Airfield in Savannah Wednesday night.

Maj. Allen Hill is a spokesman for the elite Kentucky-based unit that suffered the loss.

He says the MH-60 Black Hawk helicopter went down during a routine training flight.

"Between their final approach and making it to the helipad, something happened and they had a hard landing, resulting in the death of one crew member and injury of two," Maj. Hill says. "I have not been given any information about how the aircraft made the hard landing or why. That's still part of the ongoing investigation at this time."

The injured were being treated at a Savannah hospital. 

 

The soldiers belong to a unit, the 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment, known as the Night Stalkers.

They fly helicopters behind enemy lines at night.

They are headquartered at Ft. Campbell, Ky., and have battalions in Georgia and Washington State.

 

http://www.gpb.org/news/2014/01/16/army-investigates-helicopter-death-at-hunter-army-airfield

 

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the above photo is from here: http://www.gadailynews.com/news/savannah/206770-haaf-officials-helicopter-makes-hard-landing.html

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